GF 8800 GTS2GB DDR2 RAMAMD 4800+ 2.4 ghzWould I get a decent frame rate, on a higher graphics level ? I could always upgrade my processor in a couple weeks or a month or so.. but what do I really need to run those games on higher graphics levels with a decently good frame rate? Will I be able to run future games like Bioshock, Quake Wars, and Crysis?
Only a quadcore and three 9900 GTX's will be able to run those on low settings.... Yes of course it'll run those as thats a good processor, good ram, and great card.Will I be able to run future games like Bioshock, Quake Wars, and Crysis?
You know fine well you can, showofffail/10.
quit showing off. i know ill be able to run those on my celeron 433MHz with newly installed 256MB ram and blazing x1550 on the PCI. your pile of gigaheartz does not impress me. :D
seriously stop advertising specs, i really hope people like you start getting suspened for a week at a tiime
[QUOTE=''zbiggie'']seriously stop advertising specs, i really hope people like you start getting suspened for a week at a tiime[/QUOTE]LOL ... I was just thinking that.
Don't be so quick to judge.....his concerns seem legite. Heck, I have a 8800 GTX, 4600+ dual core, and a gig of ram and have a hard time running COH on some of the bigger maps. Some of the games coming out later this year (especially Crysis) look like they may require a minimum WEI of 5.9. Mine's only a 4.5 bc of my ram but even if I add anaother gig it will only be a 5 bc my processor is a 5.
...you know you can...all you need is 1gig ram and a dx10 card ........... or ....vista...yuk
While we're on the subject can my Quad-Core, 4 gigs of RAM, SLI-8800 GTXYZ rig run the original Half-Life at at least medium settings?
[QUOTE=''FragMonkey09'']While we're on the subject can my Quad-Core, 4 gigs of RAM, SLI-8800 GTXYZ rig run the original Half-Life at at least medium settings?[/QUOTE]
No, only low and 800 x 600 oh and 16bit colors...
[QUOTE=''FragMonkey09'']While we're on the subject can my Quad-Core, 4 gigs of RAM, SLI-8800 GTXYZ rig run the original Half-Life at at least medium settings?[/QUOTE]No way, sadly only minesweeper for you my friend, but even that will stress all 4 cores to the max!
[QUOTE=''FragMonkey09'']While we're on the subject can my Quad-Core, 4 gigs of RAM, SLI-8800 GTXYZ rig run the original Half-Life at at least medium settings?[/QUOTE]to run Half Life 2, you would have to run Windows XP....That ''Thing'' cant even run XP...so no.
[QUOTE=''FragMonkey09'']While we're on the subject can my Quad-Core, 4 gigs of RAM, SLI-8800 GTXYZ rig run the original Half-Life at at least medium settings?[/QUOTE]to run Half Life 2, you would have to run Windows XP....That ''Thing'' cant even run XP...so no.
oh crap sticks. One day i will be able to say i have a pc like that. Damn, somone give me a job so i can get some money hahaha
since we are showing off and all, sli 8800 ultras, overclocked to 3000mhz, quad-core, 8 gigs of ram, stryker extreme mobo, 1100 watt power supply, 2 terabytes of hdd space and a dell ultrasharp 30 inch moniter.......i have a 7g pc and no digital camera. IN YALL FACE! but lol, thats ma pc.(oh and running WINDOWS VISTA!)
[QUOTE=''mad0260'']quit showing off. i know ill be able to run those on my celeron 433MHz with newly installed 256MB ram and blazing x1550 on the PCI. your pile of gigaheartz does not impress me. :D[/QUOTE]:lol:
[QUOTE=''Veronin''] GF 8800 GTS2GB DDR2 RAMAMD 4800+ 2.4 ghzWould I get a decent frame rate, on a higher graphics level ? I could always upgrade my processor in a couple weeks or a month or so.. but what do I really need to run those games on higher graphics levels with a decently good frame rate? [/QUOTE]Nope this setup wil only handle online poker and clickablo 2.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
I want to learn how to code AI, whare do I start?
Well, I would like to know how to make videos games. And I would like to code AI. Now heres the thing, I know nothing about it. Im willing to spend alot of time learning how to do it. I have a C++ book that im reading. but I was wonderingif theres a book that teatches you how to code AI in video games. And if it also came with a program for you to test your AI code and well, see if it wroks. Sorry of this is the wrong forum, but I have no idea what to get.I want to learn how to code AI, whare do I start?
going to school is the best option. Without that degree no one will take you seriously.I want to learn how to code AI, whare do I start?
[QUOTE=''Deihmos''] going to school is the best option. Without that degree no one will take you seriously.[/QUOTE] yes I know that, but I would like to know the basics first.
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
AI is relatively advanced. If you are starting to learn programming and you have a beginners C++ book, you'll probably have to read that book entirely before you can start tackling AI.Im not aware of any books that teach both AI and programming from the ground up as you go. Most AI books i've seen have no code and are mostly just concepts that the programmer implements - but that requires a decent amount of programming knowledge since you need to convert concepts into code since the code isnt given to you.I would recommend a book like this: Beginning C++ Game Programming. I havent read it (since i dont use C++), but it seems like a game programming book for an absolute beginner. It seems the farthest you get will just be text-based games, but it should give you enough knowledge to spend time on creating your own custom AI for it.
I've got a couple of computer ''geek'' friends that started getting heavy into programming and all that fun stuff needed for writing code for games...let me tell you something (this isn't meant to discourage you, just from my own personal views/opinion)I tried watching these two guys work on a final for one of their courses; and the final was to write an AI program. The object was that you worked in a 5 x 5 grid: At one end of the grid was a cat and at the other end of the grid was a mouse - their job was to write an AI program that would allow the mouse to out-smart the cat and arrive safely at the oposite end of the grid.I've never seen these two guys struggle so hard before over this one project (and these were brainy guys, doing all the calc and trig classes and being able to blow through C and C++). So, learning to do AI is no simple task.Be prepared to become frustrated and greatly annoyed at times....and if you can stick through all of that, then maybe you'll have what it takes to knock out some good AI programs eventually.
[QUOTE=''Deihmos'']going to school is the best option. Without that degree no one will take you seriously.[/QUOTE]That's not exactly true. Of course that's the safest option of getting into the industry, but there's also the realm of modding. designers and leaders of top mods for certain games(i.e. HL2, UT2004 etc.) are quite often in demand by the videogame industry.
[QUOTE=''neatfeatguy'']I've got a couple of computer ''geek'' friends that started getting heavy into programming and all that fun stuff needed for writing code for games...let me tell you something (this isn't meant to discourage you, just from my own personal views/opinion)I tried watching these two guys work on a final for one of their courses; and the final was to write an AI program. The object was that you worked in a 5 x 5 grid: At one end of the grid was a cat and at the other end of the grid was a mouse - their job was to write an AI program that would allow the mouse to out-smart the cat and arrive safely at the oposite end of the grid.I've never seen these two guys struggle so hard before over this one project (and these were brainy guys, doing all the calc and trig classes and being able to blow through C and C++). So, learning to do AI is no simple task.Be prepared to become frustrated and greatly annoyed at times....and if you can stick through all of that, then maybe you'll have what it takes to knock out some good AI programs eventually.[/QUOTE]Ya i would agree with you. I'm a developer and i can program some games in C++ but AI is very tough when you get into it. You'll want a university software engineering degree most likely if you really want to get into it. The main reason being the math involved is quite complex. Basic AI is quite easy but anything where it actually has a brain is where it gets tough.You don't need to use C++ when you're getting into AI but it is a good starting point because a large portion of books you'll find at book stores involve c++. If you want some solid books look for ones written by Andrew Lamothe. They're very well done. I own several of his and i find them easy to pick follow and cover the foundation well.But before you do AI you will need to at least have a starting point in gaming. Even if this is something really basic and then from there build your AI on top of that. Also if you don't want to get into developing games from the ground up i would suggest looking at how to build on top of the unreal engines, hl2 and such. They're easy to quickly setup games and the code is easy to follow.
In the games industry, your portfolio/experience means more than a degree, although a degree will deifnatly help (although they will hire you anyways if you show you can create some amazing AI in games, or code your own game, and show that you can work hard).
I would guess there are some prety good books on AI on amazon, you should check it out. I personnaly am a programming n00b and Im studying Java to make games (Java has lots of potential, easy networking aswell). But to me, AI is a very far flung concept. And I think its definetily one of the last things you will learn to do in programming.
Oh yeah, and also a degree can help, but it really depends on how good you are at programming (Or art depending on your job). Just because you have a degree in computer science and finished top of your class, you might not have the skills required to make a game.
AI is one of the hardest parts of programming because there are millions (depending on program) IF and THEN statements that need to be coded. After each step, another set of IF and THEN's opens up, so by the end u have a looooooong list of all possible actions and corrent responces that the system must produce. And coding it is tedious.
Well...I will let you in on a little secret: game AI isn't really all that advanced in the general case. With most of of your CPU time being taken up by rendering calls, occlusion/frustrum culling, collision detection, and physics...there's not a whole lot of room left for AI. Most games get by with rather simplistic routines.
Of course, you could always strive to be a trailblazer and try to come up with some pretty advanced yet computationally cheap algorithms. :D
If you want the very basics, find an open engine editor that allows you to edit AI scripts and start with figuring that out. I used to do some mapping and editing on the old Dark Engine for the Thief series, and most AI there is a series of scripts that come down to essentially 'do this unless this this or this happens, and if this happens, do this, etc.' Not especially hard once you've got the games particular coding lingo down, but it still tends to become a bit tedious when you've got to consider so many elements which the player can do. I imagine with newer engines the process is much, much more complex. Still, it's a start. You wont be coding entierly new AI anytime soon, but if you can figure out the general idea it's a start. Source engine maybe? UT engine? There are piles of mods for those two, so I imagine there must be some basic AI tweaking open to you in the editors. Give it a look!
You need some sort of formal education. Im not saying to enroll yourself in MIT or anything like that, but maybe take a night class or something at a junior college or a trade school, if they allow that sort of thing.The reason I say this is because my roommate is a computer science major. He has worked part-time coding programs for the past two years. He is an extremely bright guy, and not only academically but creatively as he writies his own music and plays in a couple bands.This last quarter, however, he took a design class where the quarter-long project was to design a game from the ground up. All the modeling and stuff like that took them about two weeks, but the AI took them the whole quarter and when the project was due they still werent finished (fortunately he cut out the unfinished part and got a good grade).My point is that while you can further yourself by being self-taught and by reading books, you are definately gonna need training and education. If it took my roommate multiple quarters of classes and two years of job experience to become proficient with programming (and a whole 10-week quarter to know AI programming), its gonna take more than a C++ for Dummies book to train you.
Programming is definitely tough, most books that teach it don't even make sense for beginners. But as always once you understand it more, Practice, Practice, Practice. Don't get discouraged because you get stuck or pissed at it. Just don't give up and before you know it you will be making complicated programs.Like many have said(if your old enough and have time) take some courses on it. Although I recommend that you find someone super smart in programming and have them teach you. Thats what I did and I learned faster than the school I was at. =]-Good Luck to ya
there is a lot of truth in what everyone has said so fari myseld am doing a double in computer science and science, and AI programming isn't offered until our 3rd year, simply for the fact that they pound us with the truth that all programming is algorithms. Someone before mentioned playing around with scripts, yes that can help a bit of understanding, unfortunately that's far from programming an AI from scratch?you'll realise the true difficulty in it by trying, simply put, you're a beginner? well, start with simply programming first, for example, set yourself smaller projects which test your algorithmic thinking (because all programming is simply maths (being logic) in code) and make a game such as bejeweled, where you're doing a lot of if this than this kind of stuffremember AI isn't restricted to a certain programming language, just depends on how it's utilized, and generally it can be translated. So play around a little and see what you like (i have to be proficient with Java for example :P) don't feel discouraged, but AI is well out of your reach at a beginner level, even i and some friends who are about 10 times ahead of me, are yet to even think about AI and we're already about to start 3rd year at uni. Remember, it depends on the complexity of your AI, scripturing isn't 'true' AI... ... you'll undersand eventuallywhat do you other guys think? or have i blown it out of the water? :(Lari
head over to www.gamedev.net and post in the appropriate forum
I would say that attempting AI programming while learning basic programming is a little bit on the impossiable side. I finished my masters of computer science degree with a focus on AI and I can tell you that AI is tough if you want it to be effective. AI programming is not IF and THEN statements, most of the AI programming that I did used very few of those but rather a method to do almost perfect decisions in as little a time as possiable using a few decision parameters. A degree in programming would be a good place to... start, then you will need to work on game programming and after that you may be able to start going into game AI programming. As far as I know C++ or any of the other common languages are used for the programming of game AI but rather a more decision based language that uses rule and such, LISP or something I can't remember.It is good that you are interested but it is good to be realistic and see that to achive your goal you have a looooooonnnnggggg road ahead of you!!!!
I'm not so sure AI necessarily has to be so complex and difficult to learn. If you want to write general AI then you need to get into research, because despite developments in Intelligent Agents and autonomous systems (like the NASA Mars rovers and whatnot) not very much has happened since the speculations about ''humanlike AI soon'' some 20+ years ago. A few examples of modern advances include areas like Evolutionary Computing and Genetic Programming, which show promise for specific domains in automation and ''cognitive theories'' (like Global Workspace Theory) that shows promise for human interaction (mimicking human ''attention'' to a task). I wouldn't worry so much about a degree unless you want to get into research.For the specific problem of AI in games there are a number of subjects you can get into that don't require advanced knowledge in semantics and computational theory:Constraint Programming, Planning, Learning Decision Systems (boosted decision-tree stumps are great for many dynamic scripts)but most of all Game Design! A well designed interface and dynamic animations can give a very convincing illusion of intelligence where the behaviour of agents in the game are actually quite simple, even random. Remember that in modern games it's more a matter of pervasiveness and plausibility -- something like the ''fourth wall'' of a stage. Even a very capable AI in a poor presentation will make the player disappointed (feeling that the computer is ''cheating'' or ''auto-killing''). A good introductionary text at undergraduate level is AIMA (AI: A Modern Approach) often referred to as ''Russel and Norvig'' after the authors; aima.cs.berkeley.edu. That text doesn't deal with computer games explicitly but the appications are easy to imagine. The real key to understanding AI in computer games, IMO, is to really understand the importance of data -- it's easy to apply existing techniques to a game but that technique will be rather useless if you haven't chosen good information to extract from your game-environment. Thus, the modelling your game uses (e.g Gameplay Programming) is essential for succesfull application. IMO of course, you can probably find ppl who disagree with that and claim that a good AI should be able to perform well with the same set of data that a human would use (ie proponents of so-called strong AI). Speaking of modelling, someone above mentioned mods - modifications to existing games. This is a great way to see how others have done and sometimes existing games clearly illustrate the shortcomings of many games' data models. Plus it's a great way to really get into programming and content creation without the often insurmountable hurdle of getting a game engine up and running to start testing your AI. To summarize:Learn Game %26 Art Design. Understanding convincing presentation is very important - how does the game seem intelligent?Learn and think carefully about information and questions like ''what do I need to know to decide X'' or perhaps more importantly ''how can I pretend that I know X'' Learn and apply existing techniques without regard to their original applicationsMod!// raphaelamateur researcher; complex adaptive systems
going to school is the best option. Without that degree no one will take you seriously.I want to learn how to code AI, whare do I start?
[QUOTE=''Deihmos''] going to school is the best option. Without that degree no one will take you seriously.[/QUOTE] yes I know that, but I would like to know the basics first.
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
AI is relatively advanced. If you are starting to learn programming and you have a beginners C++ book, you'll probably have to read that book entirely before you can start tackling AI.Im not aware of any books that teach both AI and programming from the ground up as you go. Most AI books i've seen have no code and are mostly just concepts that the programmer implements - but that requires a decent amount of programming knowledge since you need to convert concepts into code since the code isnt given to you.I would recommend a book like this: Beginning C++ Game Programming. I havent read it (since i dont use C++), but it seems like a game programming book for an absolute beginner. It seems the farthest you get will just be text-based games, but it should give you enough knowledge to spend time on creating your own custom AI for it.
I've got a couple of computer ''geek'' friends that started getting heavy into programming and all that fun stuff needed for writing code for games...let me tell you something (this isn't meant to discourage you, just from my own personal views/opinion)I tried watching these two guys work on a final for one of their courses; and the final was to write an AI program. The object was that you worked in a 5 x 5 grid: At one end of the grid was a cat and at the other end of the grid was a mouse - their job was to write an AI program that would allow the mouse to out-smart the cat and arrive safely at the oposite end of the grid.I've never seen these two guys struggle so hard before over this one project (and these were brainy guys, doing all the calc and trig classes and being able to blow through C and C++). So, learning to do AI is no simple task.Be prepared to become frustrated and greatly annoyed at times....and if you can stick through all of that, then maybe you'll have what it takes to knock out some good AI programs eventually.
[QUOTE=''Deihmos'']going to school is the best option. Without that degree no one will take you seriously.[/QUOTE]That's not exactly true. Of course that's the safest option of getting into the industry, but there's also the realm of modding. designers and leaders of top mods for certain games(i.e. HL2, UT2004 etc.) are quite often in demand by the videogame industry.
[QUOTE=''neatfeatguy'']I've got a couple of computer ''geek'' friends that started getting heavy into programming and all that fun stuff needed for writing code for games...let me tell you something (this isn't meant to discourage you, just from my own personal views/opinion)I tried watching these two guys work on a final for one of their courses; and the final was to write an AI program. The object was that you worked in a 5 x 5 grid: At one end of the grid was a cat and at the other end of the grid was a mouse - their job was to write an AI program that would allow the mouse to out-smart the cat and arrive safely at the oposite end of the grid.I've never seen these two guys struggle so hard before over this one project (and these were brainy guys, doing all the calc and trig classes and being able to blow through C and C++). So, learning to do AI is no simple task.Be prepared to become frustrated and greatly annoyed at times....and if you can stick through all of that, then maybe you'll have what it takes to knock out some good AI programs eventually.[/QUOTE]Ya i would agree with you. I'm a developer and i can program some games in C++ but AI is very tough when you get into it. You'll want a university software engineering degree most likely if you really want to get into it. The main reason being the math involved is quite complex. Basic AI is quite easy but anything where it actually has a brain is where it gets tough.You don't need to use C++ when you're getting into AI but it is a good starting point because a large portion of books you'll find at book stores involve c++. If you want some solid books look for ones written by Andrew Lamothe. They're very well done. I own several of his and i find them easy to pick follow and cover the foundation well.But before you do AI you will need to at least have a starting point in gaming. Even if this is something really basic and then from there build your AI on top of that. Also if you don't want to get into developing games from the ground up i would suggest looking at how to build on top of the unreal engines, hl2 and such. They're easy to quickly setup games and the code is easy to follow.
In the games industry, your portfolio/experience means more than a degree, although a degree will deifnatly help (although they will hire you anyways if you show you can create some amazing AI in games, or code your own game, and show that you can work hard).
I would guess there are some prety good books on AI on amazon, you should check it out. I personnaly am a programming n00b and Im studying Java to make games (Java has lots of potential, easy networking aswell). But to me, AI is a very far flung concept. And I think its definetily one of the last things you will learn to do in programming.
Oh yeah, and also a degree can help, but it really depends on how good you are at programming (Or art depending on your job). Just because you have a degree in computer science and finished top of your class, you might not have the skills required to make a game.
AI is one of the hardest parts of programming because there are millions (depending on program) IF and THEN statements that need to be coded. After each step, another set of IF and THEN's opens up, so by the end u have a looooooong list of all possible actions and corrent responces that the system must produce. And coding it is tedious.
Well...I will let you in on a little secret: game AI isn't really all that advanced in the general case. With most of of your CPU time being taken up by rendering calls, occlusion/frustrum culling, collision detection, and physics...there's not a whole lot of room left for AI. Most games get by with rather simplistic routines.
Of course, you could always strive to be a trailblazer and try to come up with some pretty advanced yet computationally cheap algorithms. :D
If you want the very basics, find an open engine editor that allows you to edit AI scripts and start with figuring that out. I used to do some mapping and editing on the old Dark Engine for the Thief series, and most AI there is a series of scripts that come down to essentially 'do this unless this this or this happens, and if this happens, do this, etc.' Not especially hard once you've got the games particular coding lingo down, but it still tends to become a bit tedious when you've got to consider so many elements which the player can do. I imagine with newer engines the process is much, much more complex. Still, it's a start. You wont be coding entierly new AI anytime soon, but if you can figure out the general idea it's a start. Source engine maybe? UT engine? There are piles of mods for those two, so I imagine there must be some basic AI tweaking open to you in the editors. Give it a look!
You need some sort of formal education. Im not saying to enroll yourself in MIT or anything like that, but maybe take a night class or something at a junior college or a trade school, if they allow that sort of thing.The reason I say this is because my roommate is a computer science major. He has worked part-time coding programs for the past two years. He is an extremely bright guy, and not only academically but creatively as he writies his own music and plays in a couple bands.This last quarter, however, he took a design class where the quarter-long project was to design a game from the ground up. All the modeling and stuff like that took them about two weeks, but the AI took them the whole quarter and when the project was due they still werent finished (fortunately he cut out the unfinished part and got a good grade).My point is that while you can further yourself by being self-taught and by reading books, you are definately gonna need training and education. If it took my roommate multiple quarters of classes and two years of job experience to become proficient with programming (and a whole 10-week quarter to know AI programming), its gonna take more than a C++ for Dummies book to train you.
Programming is definitely tough, most books that teach it don't even make sense for beginners. But as always once you understand it more, Practice, Practice, Practice. Don't get discouraged because you get stuck or pissed at it. Just don't give up and before you know it you will be making complicated programs.Like many have said(if your old enough and have time) take some courses on it. Although I recommend that you find someone super smart in programming and have them teach you. Thats what I did and I learned faster than the school I was at. =]-Good Luck to ya
there is a lot of truth in what everyone has said so fari myseld am doing a double in computer science and science, and AI programming isn't offered until our 3rd year, simply for the fact that they pound us with the truth that all programming is algorithms. Someone before mentioned playing around with scripts, yes that can help a bit of understanding, unfortunately that's far from programming an AI from scratch?you'll realise the true difficulty in it by trying, simply put, you're a beginner? well, start with simply programming first, for example, set yourself smaller projects which test your algorithmic thinking (because all programming is simply maths (being logic) in code) and make a game such as bejeweled, where you're doing a lot of if this than this kind of stuffremember AI isn't restricted to a certain programming language, just depends on how it's utilized, and generally it can be translated. So play around a little and see what you like (i have to be proficient with Java for example :P) don't feel discouraged, but AI is well out of your reach at a beginner level, even i and some friends who are about 10 times ahead of me, are yet to even think about AI and we're already about to start 3rd year at uni. Remember, it depends on the complexity of your AI, scripturing isn't 'true' AI... ... you'll undersand eventuallywhat do you other guys think? or have i blown it out of the water? :(Lari
head over to www.gamedev.net and post in the appropriate forum
I would say that attempting AI programming while learning basic programming is a little bit on the impossiable side. I finished my masters of computer science degree with a focus on AI and I can tell you that AI is tough if you want it to be effective. AI programming is not IF and THEN statements, most of the AI programming that I did used very few of those but rather a method to do almost perfect decisions in as little a time as possiable using a few decision parameters. A degree in programming would be a good place to... start, then you will need to work on game programming and after that you may be able to start going into game AI programming. As far as I know C++ or any of the other common languages are used for the programming of game AI but rather a more decision based language that uses rule and such, LISP or something I can't remember.It is good that you are interested but it is good to be realistic and see that to achive your goal you have a looooooonnnnggggg road ahead of you!!!!
I'm not so sure AI necessarily has to be so complex and difficult to learn. If you want to write general AI then you need to get into research, because despite developments in Intelligent Agents and autonomous systems (like the NASA Mars rovers and whatnot) not very much has happened since the speculations about ''humanlike AI soon'' some 20+ years ago. A few examples of modern advances include areas like Evolutionary Computing and Genetic Programming, which show promise for specific domains in automation and ''cognitive theories'' (like Global Workspace Theory) that shows promise for human interaction (mimicking human ''attention'' to a task). I wouldn't worry so much about a degree unless you want to get into research.For the specific problem of AI in games there are a number of subjects you can get into that don't require advanced knowledge in semantics and computational theory:Constraint Programming, Planning, Learning Decision Systems (boosted decision-tree stumps are great for many dynamic scripts)but most of all Game Design! A well designed interface and dynamic animations can give a very convincing illusion of intelligence where the behaviour of agents in the game are actually quite simple, even random. Remember that in modern games it's more a matter of pervasiveness and plausibility -- something like the ''fourth wall'' of a stage. Even a very capable AI in a poor presentation will make the player disappointed (feeling that the computer is ''cheating'' or ''auto-killing''). A good introductionary text at undergraduate level is AIMA (AI: A Modern Approach) often referred to as ''Russel and Norvig'' after the authors; aima.cs.berkeley.edu. That text doesn't deal with computer games explicitly but the appications are easy to imagine. The real key to understanding AI in computer games, IMO, is to really understand the importance of data -- it's easy to apply existing techniques to a game but that technique will be rather useless if you haven't chosen good information to extract from your game-environment. Thus, the modelling your game uses (e.g Gameplay Programming) is essential for succesfull application. IMO of course, you can probably find ppl who disagree with that and claim that a good AI should be able to perform well with the same set of data that a human would use (ie proponents of so-called strong AI). Speaking of modelling, someone above mentioned mods - modifications to existing games. This is a great way to see how others have done and sometimes existing games clearly illustrate the shortcomings of many games' data models. Plus it's a great way to really get into programming and content creation without the often insurmountable hurdle of getting a game engine up and running to start testing your AI. To summarize:Learn Game %26 Art Design. Understanding convincing presentation is very important - how does the game seem intelligent?Learn and think carefully about information and questions like ''what do I need to know to decide X'' or perhaps more importantly ''how can I pretend that I know X'' Learn and apply existing techniques without regard to their original applicationsMod!// raphaelamateur researcher; complex adaptive systems
Stalker Faiakes Mod v2.2 Question..
Will my old game saves work after installing Stalker Faiakes Mod v2.2.. If so is there anything special i should so i can use them?lips
Crysis trailers - single core?
Is it true that almost all the crysis trailers that we have been watching are running on single core processors? is it?Crysis trailers - single core?
I honestly wouldnt be suprised. The game may be developed on these insane rigs (or not, idunno) but keep in mind this developer is in Europe and PC components are often expensive in some parts.Also, it gives them bragging rights if the game looks that nice on a relatively dated and inexpensive computer. THe only problem is that the official unofficial specs are that you need a single-core processor at 3.0GHz right now, quite high imo.Crysis trailers - single core?
yeah. Imagine the fluidity that you would get but dining it with a dualcore...If this is true however. I noticed that some of the videos have inconsistent framerates...hm...
the ones from CES was in fact running on a single core.
I honestly wouldnt be suprised. The game may be developed on these insane rigs (or not, idunno) but keep in mind this developer is in Europe and PC components are often expensive in some parts.Also, it gives them bragging rights if the game looks that nice on a relatively dated and inexpensive computer. THe only problem is that the official unofficial specs are that you need a single-core processor at 3.0GHz right now, quite high imo.Crysis trailers - single core?
yeah. Imagine the fluidity that you would get but dining it with a dualcore...If this is true however. I noticed that some of the videos have inconsistent framerates...hm...
the ones from CES was in fact running on a single core.
How to install The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Francesco's New Items mod
I have downloaded teh file and everything can someone help me and very detailed tell me how install this mod..
How to install The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Francesco's New Items mod
Read the readme. It should contain the info.
How to install The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Francesco's New Items mod
I figured it out but for some reason i cant find any new weapons i see new creatures and stuff but maybe it is because im level 4...
How to install The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Francesco's New Items mod
Read the readme. It should contain the info.
How to install The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Francesco's New Items mod
I figured it out but for some reason i cant find any new weapons i see new creatures and stuff but maybe it is because im level 4...
Freeroming action/RPG game list
Ive been bored with the games I have right now, I need a new addition.Im looking for a freeroming game thats rewarding or has some content that makes your freeroming worthwhile. It can be RPG or action, so if anyone knows any Id love to hear it. It can be old or new, whichever.The Games that I have in this category right now would be, Oblivion, Morrowind (with expansions), KOTOR, and GUN.If yall could help me out that would be awesome =]oh and MMORPGS are a factor included too.thanks alotFreeroming action/RPG game list
Phantasy Star OnlineFreeroming action/RPG game list
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
You could try your hands with the Gothic series (1, 2 and 3).
Definitely agree with going for the Gothic series.
Arx Fatalis is free roam, but a bit more linear than Gothic %26 Morrowindsince many of the areas are blocked offor barricaded until later in the game.
just a little bump.anyone else?
Phantasy Star OnlineFreeroming action/RPG game list
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
You could try your hands with the Gothic series (1, 2 and 3).
Definitely agree with going for the Gothic series.
Arx Fatalis is free roam, but a bit more linear than Gothic %26 Morrowindsince many of the areas are blocked offor barricaded until later in the game.
just a little bump.anyone else?
How's Unreal Tournament 2004?
I'm getting it in a day or two and I wanted your opinions.My uncle, a huge gamer, says it's better the CSS.Thoughts?How's Unreal Tournament 2004?
You can unreal for as little as $2.00 and i think there is a demo.How's Unreal Tournament 2004?
I meant UT2004
It's an excellent game IMO. Offers fast paced multiplayer action. If you don't want to play online, you can play against Intelligent, AI controlled bots in a wide variety of game modes and on over 100 maps.
Ya there's a demo for it somewhere. You could probably find it on gamespot or most other sites that have demos. The game's really good and has some really good mods as well
I recommend it. It was the first real PC game I bought. I played it for 2 and a half years. It never got old. There's a huge mod community where you can always download new maps, skins, and gametypes.
The actual gameplay is fast and frentic. Expect to have to move constantly and jump around. Lots of death and explosions. The graphics are still on par with some of the stuff that's still being released today, and it doesn't even take a GREAT computer to play it.
I give it a 9.7/10.
(Plus, it's only about $15 now.)
[QUOTE=''Shadow_op''] I'm getting it in a day or two and I wanted your opinions.My uncle, a huge gamer, says it's better the CSS.Thoughts?[/QUOTE] It was fun for a while, but really didn't care for the respawn system. I could kill the same guy 4 times waiting for an objective point to cap. The environments and vehicles were awesome. The weapons were typical of the UT series. Wsa worth playing even against AI foes, but the frustration I mentioned eventually killed it for me.
It's a very cool game, but I say Counter Strike is better.
One of the best shooters out there. Also go to gamespots page for it and look at downloads. I beleive there is over 400 mods and 600 maps to download so that could take some time to go threw.
Used to play a botmatch daily. Now that daily game fix slot has been firmly replaced by SupCom, though.
Anyway, it's just good old fast-paced action-packed fun, in the same style as Quake and of course Unreal Tournament, in contrast to the pseudo-realism team tactics affair that is CS:S. The two games really doesn't compare, they are so different.
Yeah, it's a great game with infinite mod potential. I wouldn't compare it to CSS though, they're tremendously different styles.UT2k4 is arcadey with huge environments, vehicles, modifiers, and sci-fi fun.CSS is slow, round based on smallish maps and pretty realistic damage.
UT 2004 is a great game and very different from CS. Its good to play both as they both make a nice change of pace from each other
[QUOTE=''madrocketeer'']Used to play a botmatch daily. Now that daily game fix slot has been firmly replaced by SupCom, though. Anyway, it's just good old fast-paced action-packed fun, in the same style as Quake and of course Unreal Tournament, in contrast to the pseudo-realism team tactics affair that is CS:S. The two games really doesn't compare, they are so different.[/QUOTE] I actually liked C%26C3 better than SupCom :P
I personally like UT 2k4 over CSS because I feel UT 2k4 is a lot more unique than other shooters and it is probably one of the fastest paced multiplayer fps out there.
This topic has been talked to DEATH.Do some search, you will see me in many other topics\threads praising the game. It is excellent, it's fast paced, still good graphics but can run even on on-boards GPUs, lots of mods and smart, realisticAI if you can't play online for whatever reason.
Cool game lots of gore and blood very enjoyable.
[QUOTE=''Shadow_op'']I'm getting it in a day or two and I wanted your opinions.My uncle, a huge gamer, says it's better the CSS.Thoughts?[/QUOTE]It's a very fun game, but there really is no point comparing it to CS: Source; it's like comparing apples and oranges. While CS: Source is a more tactical and realistic game, UT2004 is a more SHOOT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND BLOW STUFF UP game. Both very fun, but I like UT2004 more.
How good is it? Well it came out in 2003, and I'm still playin it.Its an awesome game. Fast, intense, and (more importantly) fun. Single player is great, and the mutliplayer is a lot of fun. If you get bored or want to spice it up, there plenty of mods and mutators for the game that bring it great value. Definitely recommend it my brother.
Amazing fast paced FPS, and its still graphically pleasing to this day :)
I like the fastpaced gameplay more than CS, which really sucks for me cause I can't find a server below 100 ping in ut2k4 cause I live out in the boonies and can't get a great internet connection.
You can unreal for as little as $2.00 and i think there is a demo.How's Unreal Tournament 2004?
I meant UT2004
It's an excellent game IMO. Offers fast paced multiplayer action. If you don't want to play online, you can play against Intelligent, AI controlled bots in a wide variety of game modes and on over 100 maps.
Ya there's a demo for it somewhere. You could probably find it on gamespot or most other sites that have demos. The game's really good and has some really good mods as well
I recommend it. It was the first real PC game I bought. I played it for 2 and a half years. It never got old. There's a huge mod community where you can always download new maps, skins, and gametypes.
The actual gameplay is fast and frentic. Expect to have to move constantly and jump around. Lots of death and explosions. The graphics are still on par with some of the stuff that's still being released today, and it doesn't even take a GREAT computer to play it.
I give it a 9.7/10.
(Plus, it's only about $15 now.)
[QUOTE=''Shadow_op''] I'm getting it in a day or two and I wanted your opinions.My uncle, a huge gamer, says it's better the CSS.Thoughts?[/QUOTE] It was fun for a while, but really didn't care for the respawn system. I could kill the same guy 4 times waiting for an objective point to cap. The environments and vehicles were awesome. The weapons were typical of the UT series. Wsa worth playing even against AI foes, but the frustration I mentioned eventually killed it for me.
It's a very cool game, but I say Counter Strike is better.
One of the best shooters out there. Also go to gamespots page for it and look at downloads. I beleive there is over 400 mods and 600 maps to download so that could take some time to go threw.
Used to play a botmatch daily. Now that daily game fix slot has been firmly replaced by SupCom, though.
Anyway, it's just good old fast-paced action-packed fun, in the same style as Quake and of course Unreal Tournament, in contrast to the pseudo-realism team tactics affair that is CS:S. The two games really doesn't compare, they are so different.
Yeah, it's a great game with infinite mod potential. I wouldn't compare it to CSS though, they're tremendously different styles.UT2k4 is arcadey with huge environments, vehicles, modifiers, and sci-fi fun.CSS is slow, round based on smallish maps and pretty realistic damage.
UT 2004 is a great game and very different from CS. Its good to play both as they both make a nice change of pace from each other
[QUOTE=''madrocketeer'']Used to play a botmatch daily. Now that daily game fix slot has been firmly replaced by SupCom, though. Anyway, it's just good old fast-paced action-packed fun, in the same style as Quake and of course Unreal Tournament, in contrast to the pseudo-realism team tactics affair that is CS:S. The two games really doesn't compare, they are so different.[/QUOTE] I actually liked C%26C3 better than SupCom :P
I personally like UT 2k4 over CSS because I feel UT 2k4 is a lot more unique than other shooters and it is probably one of the fastest paced multiplayer fps out there.
This topic has been talked to DEATH.Do some search, you will see me in many other topics\threads praising the game. It is excellent, it's fast paced, still good graphics but can run even on on-boards GPUs, lots of mods and smart, realisticAI if you can't play online for whatever reason.
Cool game lots of gore and blood very enjoyable.
[QUOTE=''Shadow_op'']I'm getting it in a day or two and I wanted your opinions.My uncle, a huge gamer, says it's better the CSS.Thoughts?[/QUOTE]It's a very fun game, but there really is no point comparing it to CS: Source; it's like comparing apples and oranges. While CS: Source is a more tactical and realistic game, UT2004 is a more SHOOT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND BLOW STUFF UP game. Both very fun, but I like UT2004 more.
How good is it? Well it came out in 2003, and I'm still playin it.Its an awesome game. Fast, intense, and (more importantly) fun. Single player is great, and the mutliplayer is a lot of fun. If you get bored or want to spice it up, there plenty of mods and mutators for the game that bring it great value. Definitely recommend it my brother.
Amazing fast paced FPS, and its still graphically pleasing to this day :)
I like the fastpaced gameplay more than CS, which really sucks for me cause I can't find a server below 100 ping in ut2k4 cause I live out in the boonies and can't get a great internet connection.
Shadowrun monthly fee?
Do I have to pay a monthly fee for shadowrun?Shadowrun monthly fee?
if you want to play with the 360 people then yes.Shadowrun monthly fee?
K thanks!
What if you dont want to play with the people of the 360s?
Ok well I want to play with the people on the 360, will all I need to pay for is my gamercard or will there be another fee? I have a gamercard.
[QUOTE=''RonyDean'']Ok well I want to play with the people on the 360, will all I need to pay for is my gamercard or will there be another fee? I have a gamercard.[/QUOTE]
If you have XBL *looks at your sig* and you do, you can use that gamertag and you dont have to pay anything extra.
if you want to play with the 360 people then yes.Shadowrun monthly fee?
K thanks!
What if you dont want to play with the people of the 360s?
Ok well I want to play with the people on the 360, will all I need to pay for is my gamercard or will there be another fee? I have a gamercard.
[QUOTE=''RonyDean'']Ok well I want to play with the people on the 360, will all I need to pay for is my gamercard or will there be another fee? I have a gamercard.[/QUOTE]
If you have XBL *looks at your sig* and you do, you can use that gamertag and you dont have to pay anything extra.
F.E.A.R.'s storyline
What did you all think of F.E.A.R.'s storyline? While I understood most of the story while playing, I still had to read up on it on Wikipedia to fully understand it. I think it was actually very engaging and ... good (I finished Extraction Point too). I just think it was a little hard to follow...anyone else agree? Besides for that I loved it. F.E.A.R.'s storyline
I found it hard to follow yes. Especially because you couldn't hear the voices well even with the volume pumped up..F.E.A.R.'s storyline
[QUOTE=''frizzyman0292'']I found it hard to follow yes. Especially because you couldn't hear the voices well even with the volume pumped up..[/QUOTE]Lol actually yeah...I had a hard time hearing them, unless I had my headphones on. Even then...
I wasn't sure if i was the only person that had that issue and i even have sweet speakers..
[QUOTE=''frizzyman0292'']I wasn't sure if i was the only person that had that issue and i even have sweet speakers..[/QUOTE]Lol yeah, and my motherboard even came with HD quality audio...which makes games like FEAR and CoD 2 sound extremely awesome.
Pretty good story. It really freaked me out.
The story was easy to understand in original F.E.A.R., but IMO, Extraction Point made the whole thing so confusing, I didn't like the ending at all.
I played through FEAR and had no trouble figuring out the story or hearing the voices. Then again I have the director's cut version and have watched all of the movies they had on it. I have yet to play through the expansion but I recently picked it up so I'll probably play through it all again soon.
There was barely a story ( like almost every FPS )
the storyline was great...i loved it...
the original FEAR comes with a prequal type movie (under bonus content) that explains a little more of the story
The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb
I liked the story, though I wouldnt call it GREAT. And it wasnt hard to follow, in the end everything made sense for me
[QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didn't realy think the voice mails told much of the story. they where used to add another scare aspect to the game. Most of them had nothing useful to say and whether you listened to them or not was completeley up to you.
[QUOTE=''mattisgod01''] [QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didn't realy think the voice mails told much of the story. they where used to add another scare aspect to the game. Most of them had nothing useful to say and whether you listened to them or not was completeley up to you.[/QUOTE] actually you'd be surprised on how much the voice mails and lap tops tell you. i found them much more informative than the cut scenes but... it's stupid to have the major plot twists revealed through them
[QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]...How the hell do you figure that?
F.E.A.R... Story line... I did not notice one... just the same old, same old stuff over and over and over again!
[QUOTE=''Skullheart''] [QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]How the hell do you figure that?[/QUOTE] how did i figure out which one? that the game is like final fantasy VII with Japanese horroror using paramilitary and japanese horror mixed while having a plot that is similar to something like the ringwould bomb?
[QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didnt think the story of FEAR was anything great. Decent, but forgettable. I bought FEAR for the gunfights not an epic story :PBut i do have to wonder, why did you find the story progression via voice mails bad? I thought it was a very good idea considering you can skip most of the story if you choose to instead of being forced to watch cutscenes detailing it out. If the player was interested he can go to the laptops and get more, if not he will just move on.
[QUOTE=''XaosII''] [QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didnt think the story of FEAR was anything great. Decent, but forgettable. I bought FEAR for the gunfights not an epic story :PBut i do have to wonder, why did you find the story progression via voice mails bad? I thought it was a very good idea considering you can skip most of the story if you choose to instead of being forced to watch cutscenes detailing it out. If the player was interested he can go to the laptops and get more, if not he will just move on.[/QUOTE] I actually like stories and on my first play through i just ran through it, didn't listen to most of the calls/lap tops and found out i didn't know what just went on for how ever long i played it. then when i went back through to try to get more story out of it, i noticed i actually had to search for the phones/ laptops... i didn't like the idea to get the story down, i had to look for it.but you're right, being force fed cutscenes probably would have broken the action in the game. I don't know, i was just underwhelmed, it may also have to do with the fact that i just played through Condemned for the 3rd time before i bought FEAR and was expecting a game with that kind of story and atmospherelips
I found it hard to follow yes. Especially because you couldn't hear the voices well even with the volume pumped up..F.E.A.R.'s storyline
[QUOTE=''frizzyman0292'']I found it hard to follow yes. Especially because you couldn't hear the voices well even with the volume pumped up..[/QUOTE]Lol actually yeah...I had a hard time hearing them, unless I had my headphones on. Even then...
I wasn't sure if i was the only person that had that issue and i even have sweet speakers..
[QUOTE=''frizzyman0292'']I wasn't sure if i was the only person that had that issue and i even have sweet speakers..[/QUOTE]Lol yeah, and my motherboard even came with HD quality audio...which makes games like FEAR and CoD 2 sound extremely awesome.
Pretty good story. It really freaked me out.
The story was easy to understand in original F.E.A.R., but IMO, Extraction Point made the whole thing so confusing, I didn't like the ending at all.
I played through FEAR and had no trouble figuring out the story or hearing the voices. Then again I have the director's cut version and have watched all of the movies they had on it. I have yet to play through the expansion but I recently picked it up so I'll probably play through it all again soon.
There was barely a story ( like almost every FPS )
the storyline was great...i loved it...
the original FEAR comes with a prequal type movie (under bonus content) that explains a little more of the story
The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb
I liked the story, though I wouldnt call it GREAT. And it wasnt hard to follow, in the end everything made sense for me
[QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didn't realy think the voice mails told much of the story. they where used to add another scare aspect to the game. Most of them had nothing useful to say and whether you listened to them or not was completeley up to you.
[QUOTE=''mattisgod01''] [QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didn't realy think the voice mails told much of the story. they where used to add another scare aspect to the game. Most of them had nothing useful to say and whether you listened to them or not was completeley up to you.[/QUOTE] actually you'd be surprised on how much the voice mails and lap tops tell you. i found them much more informative than the cut scenes but... it's stupid to have the major plot twists revealed through them
[QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]...How the hell do you figure that?
F.E.A.R... Story line... I did not notice one... just the same old, same old stuff over and over and over again!
[QUOTE=''Skullheart''] [QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]How the hell do you figure that?[/QUOTE] how did i figure out which one? that the game is like final fantasy VII with Japanese horroror using paramilitary and japanese horror mixed while having a plot that is similar to something like the ringwould bomb?
[QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didnt think the story of FEAR was anything great. Decent, but forgettable. I bought FEAR for the gunfights not an epic story :PBut i do have to wonder, why did you find the story progression via voice mails bad? I thought it was a very good idea considering you can skip most of the story if you choose to instead of being forced to watch cutscenes detailing it out. If the player was interested he can go to the laptops and get more, if not he will just move on.
[QUOTE=''XaosII''] [QUOTE=''smerlus'']The story played out pretty much like Final Fantasy VII with a japanese horror girl attached to it. and the way the story progressed mainly through voice mails was pretty retarded. i thought it was pretty cliched and if thrown into a movie, the movie would bomb[/QUOTE]I didnt think the story of FEAR was anything great. Decent, but forgettable. I bought FEAR for the gunfights not an epic story :PBut i do have to wonder, why did you find the story progression via voice mails bad? I thought it was a very good idea considering you can skip most of the story if you choose to instead of being forced to watch cutscenes detailing it out. If the player was interested he can go to the laptops and get more, if not he will just move on.[/QUOTE] I actually like stories and on my first play through i just ran through it, didn't listen to most of the calls/lap tops and found out i didn't know what just went on for how ever long i played it. then when i went back through to try to get more story out of it, i noticed i actually had to search for the phones/ laptops... i didn't like the idea to get the story down, i had to look for it.but you're right, being force fed cutscenes probably would have broken the action in the game. I don't know, i was just underwhelmed, it may also have to do with the fact that i just played through Condemned for the 3rd time before i bought FEAR and was expecting a game with that kind of story and atmosphere
Help w/ BF2142
hi all, i just bought BF2142 ...downloaded and installed all patches and when loading the next map it CTD or w/e you call it lol it tells me some memory error and the loading just stops at 50 % aprox.PC Specs:Vista 32-Bit EditionNvidia 7600 GTIntel CD2 4300 @1.8 ghz3582 DDR2 MB RAMSB ! Live 24-bit 5.1i have installed the patches in the following order lol 1.01, 1.5, 1.6, 1.10, 1.20, 1.25 ...uninstalled and reinstalled the game a couple of times and the problem goes on ![]()
PLZ HELP ...i dont have anybody around that can help me with my this thingany help will be apreciated, already cheked out EA battlefield webpage but i didnt help muchHelp w/ BF2142
If it is your first time loading...IT will take a good 5 min to load.Help w/ BF2142
Did you try the demo before buying the game?
reinstall the game and DL the FULL 1.25 patch, never get incremental patches,
Yes donwload the full patch. Only use the incremental when downloading the next version, if your current version is up to date.
yeah i tried the demo first, but i erased every trase of it before installing the complete game, so what do i do ? uninstall the game and install it then install 1.25 ? nothing more ? my loading stops (i think so) some where around 50 % ... then i hit crtl+alt+del and a small window opens saying '' BF2142 Memory Error'' the pointer instead of being a walker becomes a 'sand clock' w/e thats called lolevery time there is a new map loading .... its not the first time a join a serverTY FOR YOUR HELP :D
[QUOTE=''CptDiaz''] yeah i tried the demo first, but i erased every trase of it before installing the complete game, so what do i do ? uninstall the game and install it then install 1.25 ? nothing more ? my loading stops (i think so) some where around 50 % ... then i hit crtl+alt+del and a small window opens saying '' BF2142 Memory Error'' the pointer instead of being a walker becomes a 'sand clock' w/e thats called lolevery time there is a new map loading .... its not the first time a join a serverTY FOR YOUR HELP :D[/QUOTE]how long do you wait cuz it takes a long time
it doesn't take a long time, i have 2GB ram 6800 GT mid/high settings ish and it takes about 15 seconds or less for me.
so wtf do i do ? i wait the time is supposed to be, the game suddenly 'stops working' sometimes, but the loading of a new map always gets stopped at aprox 50 % and then the BF2142 memory error thing ....i first tried the game with 1.25 installed only and it keep making the same thing :(PLZ ANY HELP WILL BE APRECIATED
[QUOTE=''CptDiaz'']so wtf do i do ? i wait the time is supposed to be, the game suddenly 'stops working' sometimes, but the loading of a new map always gets stopped at aprox 50 % and then the BF2142 memory error thing ....i first tried the game with 1.25 installed only and it keep making the same thing :(PLZ ANY HELP WILL BE APRECIATED[/QUOTE]It always gets stuck at 50% and then picks up after a few mintues for the first time....unless you keep changing your graphic settings. Each time you change them the game has to 'recalibrate'.Is it doing this for both single player and online?BTW, don't Ctrl/Alt/Del out of the game when you first start playing it. Let it sit at 50% and go have a snack or something :)
Just don't touch your computer when it's at 50%. And if you want...go have a snack like Krall said.
u guys just keep missing the fact that it says memory error, thats not normal....are you guys really paying attentoin to what you read before you reply?
I'd say you uninstall your game, re-install, and patch it with 1.25, and you're more than likely good to go. If that doesn't work, make sue you actually have atleast a few gigs of free space on your main hardrive.. sometimes you might literally just run out of space for the game to use as it loads files. Give it atleast a gig of free space.
so it is normal for the game to stop at 50 % and then go on(after a few minutes)? i mean even the music stops ... and the 'loading walker' turns into the 'sand clock' ....the gamestops working anyway now and then ...during the gameall of this is on titan mode online ...when loading new maps, and sometimes it 'stops working' out of nowhere during playim going toleave it loading at 50 % for a few minutes as some of you say ....but it still stops workingsometimes during playTY ALL ...gonna try playing in afew minutes, my account name is CptDiaz add me if you want
the ''hour glass'' is what it is called. That should not be appearing, and the music should continue to play if things are going normally...the hour glass only appears if something in the background is trying to load...but it shouldn't be because you are running the game. It's just not normal for that to happen.Your best bet isto uninstall, reinstall, and repatch correctly. Be sure that when you patch ur game, ur game is NOT running.
omfg ... i was playing right now, normally ....titan mode,around with my hateful PAC tank... and the game suddenly CDT, vista said like BF2142.exe has stopped working ...wtf :Sso yeah im uninstalling it and installing with 1.25 patch only .... right ? TY ALL SORRY IF IM ANNOYING BUT I JUST WANNA PLAY WITHOUT PROBSLoL
yeah, just uninstall and install the game, install 1.25patch, and try it out. It should work, What was ur memory again?
yeah i uninstalled the game, installed it with 1.25 and it keeps up with the memory error ...when changing map in titan mode(online) it suddenly stops ....the walker turns into a hour glass and nothing happens ...no background music tooi have 24 GB free in my hardrive so that should be the problemTY ALL FOR YOUR HELP, BUT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THERE :(
I googled your problem and found this, give it a shot since you have the 3GB+ RAM. Looks like it is a 3GB enabler for SC3 but has worked for other games.http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=Vista%26message.id=17356#M17356Edit: What is the exact error message you're getting anyways? If you're getting an error message at all of course. Another potential fix...http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=18377%26tid=2063840
so yeah i downloaded that 3GB enabler called X6 ...what do i do now with ? just leave it there or put it on some BF2142 file ?
Open the readme.txt is usually a good start.
If it is your first time loading...IT will take a good 5 min to load.Help w/ BF2142
Did you try the demo before buying the game?
reinstall the game and DL the FULL 1.25 patch, never get incremental patches,
Yes donwload the full patch. Only use the incremental when downloading the next version, if your current version is up to date.
yeah i tried the demo first, but i erased every trase of it before installing the complete game, so what do i do ? uninstall the game and install it then install 1.25 ? nothing more ? my loading stops (i think so) some where around 50 % ... then i hit crtl+alt+del and a small window opens saying '' BF2142 Memory Error'' the pointer instead of being a walker becomes a 'sand clock' w/e thats called lolevery time there is a new map loading .... its not the first time a join a serverTY FOR YOUR HELP :D
[QUOTE=''CptDiaz''] yeah i tried the demo first, but i erased every trase of it before installing the complete game, so what do i do ? uninstall the game and install it then install 1.25 ? nothing more ? my loading stops (i think so) some where around 50 % ... then i hit crtl+alt+del and a small window opens saying '' BF2142 Memory Error'' the pointer instead of being a walker becomes a 'sand clock' w/e thats called lolevery time there is a new map loading .... its not the first time a join a serverTY FOR YOUR HELP :D[/QUOTE]how long do you wait cuz it takes a long time
it doesn't take a long time, i have 2GB ram 6800 GT mid/high settings ish and it takes about 15 seconds or less for me.
so wtf do i do ? i wait the time is supposed to be, the game suddenly 'stops working' sometimes, but the loading of a new map always gets stopped at aprox 50 % and then the BF2142 memory error thing ....i first tried the game with 1.25 installed only and it keep making the same thing :(PLZ ANY HELP WILL BE APRECIATED
[QUOTE=''CptDiaz'']so wtf do i do ? i wait the time is supposed to be, the game suddenly 'stops working' sometimes, but the loading of a new map always gets stopped at aprox 50 % and then the BF2142 memory error thing ....i first tried the game with 1.25 installed only and it keep making the same thing :(PLZ ANY HELP WILL BE APRECIATED[/QUOTE]It always gets stuck at 50% and then picks up after a few mintues for the first time....unless you keep changing your graphic settings. Each time you change them the game has to 'recalibrate'.Is it doing this for both single player and online?BTW, don't Ctrl/Alt/Del out of the game when you first start playing it. Let it sit at 50% and go have a snack or something :)
Just don't touch your computer when it's at 50%. And if you want...go have a snack like Krall said.
u guys just keep missing the fact that it says memory error, thats not normal....are you guys really paying attentoin to what you read before you reply?
I'd say you uninstall your game, re-install, and patch it with 1.25, and you're more than likely good to go. If that doesn't work, make sue you actually have atleast a few gigs of free space on your main hardrive.. sometimes you might literally just run out of space for the game to use as it loads files. Give it atleast a gig of free space.
so it is normal for the game to stop at 50 % and then go on(after a few minutes)? i mean even the music stops ... and the 'loading walker' turns into the 'sand clock' ....the gamestops working anyway now and then ...during the gameall of this is on titan mode online ...when loading new maps, and sometimes it 'stops working' out of nowhere during playim going toleave it loading at 50 % for a few minutes as some of you say ....but it still stops workingsometimes during playTY ALL ...gonna try playing in afew minutes, my account name is CptDiaz add me if you want
the ''hour glass'' is what it is called. That should not be appearing, and the music should continue to play if things are going normally...the hour glass only appears if something in the background is trying to load...but it shouldn't be because you are running the game. It's just not normal for that to happen.Your best bet isto uninstall, reinstall, and repatch correctly. Be sure that when you patch ur game, ur game is NOT running.
omfg ... i was playing right now, normally ....titan mode,around with my hateful PAC tank... and the game suddenly CDT, vista said like BF2142.exe has stopped working ...wtf :Sso yeah im uninstalling it and installing with 1.25 patch only .... right ? TY ALL SORRY IF IM ANNOYING BUT I JUST WANNA PLAY WITHOUT PROBSLoL
yeah, just uninstall and install the game, install 1.25patch, and try it out. It should work, What was ur memory again?
yeah i uninstalled the game, installed it with 1.25 and it keeps up with the memory error ...when changing map in titan mode(online) it suddenly stops ....the walker turns into a hour glass and nothing happens ...no background music tooi have 24 GB free in my hardrive so that should be the problemTY ALL FOR YOUR HELP, BUT THE PROBLEM IS STILL THERE :(
I googled your problem and found this, give it a shot since you have the 3GB+ RAM. Looks like it is a 3GB enabler for SC3 but has worked for other games.http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=Vista%26message.id=17356#M17356Edit: What is the exact error message you're getting anyways? If you're getting an error message at all of course. Another potential fix...http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=18377%26tid=2063840
so yeah i downloaded that 3GB enabler called X6 ...what do i do now with ? just leave it there or put it on some BF2142 file ?
Open the readme.txt is usually a good start.
Heroes of Annihilated Empires...opinions?
I was checking out Heroes of Annihilated Empires over on Steam and it seems pretty interesting. Some of the forums there say after playing the demo they really enjoyed it. Was wondering what opinions of the game here were like. From the reviews it seems to be about average as a RTS. However what really catches my interest is the story and the idea that it's only part one of the story, that is if it does well enough that the second part is made. I love playing RTS but honestly I like a strong story and single player more so then online at times. (Enjoyed Starcraft and Warcraft series a lot because of the good story).So how was it? Interesting? Solid offer but not offering anything new?How did it sell (sounds like it might be mainly a European game which isn't a problem so sales there might have been higher then outside of it, maybe)?Thanks.Heroes of Annihilated Empires...opinions?
I never bought the game but I played the heck out of the demo and really enjoyed it. I've played a dozen or so RTS games and I can't say it's like any other I played before. You can play it two different ways, one as part of an unfolding story/adventure as you move through the world where you can gain armies and power and the other as a base driven RTS. Even with the latter it's not a typical RTS as the units all seemed pretty creative to me and how they differed so much between different 'races' if you will. The game units don't offer as much detail as the world itself since they are sprites, but the pay off is in being able to have loads of units on screen at once without any slowdown. I heard a lot of complaints about that but I thought they looked very good to me.So why didn't I buy it? I lost again and again and again and again :) The AI plain and simple took it to me each time. I'll have to see how much it costs now as I would love to see how the full game is. Heroes of Annihilated Empires...opinions?
This game is also on my wishlist, I haven't tried out the demo yet, but I've read a couple of reviews and it looks good.
[QUOTE=''Krall'']I never bought the game but I played the heck out of the demo and really enjoyed it. I've played a dozen or so RTS games and I can't say it's like any other I played before. You can play it two different ways, one as part of an unfolding story/adventure as you move through the world where you can gain armies and power and the other as a base driven RTS. Even with the latter it's not a typical RTS as the units all seemed pretty creative to me and how they differed so much between different 'races' if you will. The game units don't offer as much detail as the world itself since they are sprites, but the pay off is in being able to have loads of units on screen at once without any slowdown. I heard a lot of complaints about that but I thought they looked very good to me.So why didn't I buy it? I lost again and again and again and again :) The AI plain and simple took it to me each time. I'll have to see how much it costs now as I would love to see how the full game is. [/QUOTE]IndeedtheAIisthesamereasonIdidn'tbuythegametoo.Itwasjusttoohardinsomecases,andthegameputsyouupwithsomereallybadodds.
I never bought the game but I played the heck out of the demo and really enjoyed it. I've played a dozen or so RTS games and I can't say it's like any other I played before. You can play it two different ways, one as part of an unfolding story/adventure as you move through the world where you can gain armies and power and the other as a base driven RTS. Even with the latter it's not a typical RTS as the units all seemed pretty creative to me and how they differed so much between different 'races' if you will. The game units don't offer as much detail as the world itself since they are sprites, but the pay off is in being able to have loads of units on screen at once without any slowdown. I heard a lot of complaints about that but I thought they looked very good to me.So why didn't I buy it? I lost again and again and again and again :) The AI plain and simple took it to me each time. I'll have to see how much it costs now as I would love to see how the full game is. Heroes of Annihilated Empires...opinions?
This game is also on my wishlist, I haven't tried out the demo yet, but I've read a couple of reviews and it looks good.
[QUOTE=''Krall'']I never bought the game but I played the heck out of the demo and really enjoyed it. I've played a dozen or so RTS games and I can't say it's like any other I played before. You can play it two different ways, one as part of an unfolding story/adventure as you move through the world where you can gain armies and power and the other as a base driven RTS. Even with the latter it's not a typical RTS as the units all seemed pretty creative to me and how they differed so much between different 'races' if you will. The game units don't offer as much detail as the world itself since they are sprites, but the pay off is in being able to have loads of units on screen at once without any slowdown. I heard a lot of complaints about that but I thought they looked very good to me.So why didn't I buy it? I lost again and again and again and again :) The AI plain and simple took it to me each time. I'll have to see how much it costs now as I would love to see how the full game is. [/QUOTE]IndeedtheAIisthesamereasonIdidn'tbuythegametoo.Itwasjusttoohardinsomecases,andthegameputsyouupwithsomereallybadodds.
WoW or LoTR
Witch online game is better?WoW or LoTR
I got bored with WoW, but I haven't tried LOTR. So play LOTR.WoW or LoTR
yah cuz i was looking to get one of them but for the price i wanted to make shure i was getting the better of the two
yah cuz i was looking to get one of them but for the price i wanted to make shure i was getting the better of the two
neither, hold out and wait for conan or Tabula Rasa. THey should be coming out soon and probably should be better then both.
LOTRO. Unless you enjoy grinding for hours on end, then WoW.
I like WoW. It's alot more fun when you go through the game with a friend. Playing solo sucks but sometimes that's your only option. It takes a little while for the game to get going. Don't judge the game on your first 10 levels. It get's alot of fun once you start doing instances and once you start to know your class. If all you do is grind, then yeah, you're making the game boring for yourself. Try to quest, do instances and group with players.
LOTRO is super boring. Ive played WoW for over two years and after the ''newness'' of LOTRO wore off (after a couple days) it was just an inferior WoW clone with the LOTR license.At least WoW has a large community, awesome quests, two different factions with unique races, and enjoyable (if you dont do it 8 hours a day) endgame content.If youre new to MMOs, go with WoW. If youre tired of WoW, give it a break for a month then renew your subscription.Dont get me wrong, I went into LOTRO with an optimistic attitude and by all means it is a very good game. It will soon problably have a rather large community as well, but it just doesnt cut it for me. In order for me to abandon WoW, I am gonna need something better than WoW and nothing has come along (EVE came close though, that trial was fun!).
LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.
[QUOTE=''-wildflower-''] LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.[/QUOTE]WoW never had a free month of game time...
if you enjoy a good story line and such than lotr, but if you enjoy pvpthan wow. i have played both and i enjoy wow more. or if you want to wait for warhammer online to come out its going to be awsome :-)
[QUOTE=''mrbojangles25''][QUOTE=''-wildflower-''] LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.[/QUOTE]WoW never had a free month of game time...[/QUOTE]Ummm, yes it did. o_O-wildflorwer-, you can't possibly see what WoW has to offer in just a month. I bet you didn't even give it a chance. Btw, ALL MMO's are a grind to some extent.The quests in WoW did make a little story. If you actually took the time to read them you wouldn't have made yourself look like an idiot and say there wasn't a story.
[QUOTE=''PC-Gamer''][QUOTE=''mrbojangles25''][QUOTE=''-wildflower-''] LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.[/QUOTE]WoW never had a free month of game time...[/QUOTE]Ummm, yes it did. o_O-wildflorwer-, you can't possibly see what WoW has to offer in just a month. I bet you didn't even give it a chance. Btw, ALL MMO's are a grind to some extent.The quests in WoW did make a little story. If you actually took the time to read them you wouldn't have made yourself look like an idiot and say there wasn't a story.[/QUOTE] But there's nothing that really attaches all of those mini stories together. I played WoW for almost a year, and I can truly say that LOTROis better thanWoW when it comes to telling a tale. LOTRO excels at having all of the quests seem connected, and then on top of that give us 9 Epic books with many chapters, all with a very cinematic feel to them.In other ways yes, WoW is the better game, but what matters to me personally is a story that keeps me engaged and gives a purpose to my actions. And there's noticeably less farming and grind, which is what turned me off from WoW in the end.
A month is more than enough time for me to decide whether or not I like something. I gave WoW a chance, I wanted to like it, but I didn't. Sue me. My character made it to level 36 or so and I found the game to be a terrible grind. Oh, and I did read the ''quests'' (thanks for assuming though) and I still think they were poorly written and added nothing to the overall story of the game. Let me guess, you probably think Oblivion has an epic story too?
I haven't tried LORD, but I play WOW regularly and I am impressed with it. You might also want to check out Guild Wars. I also play that, and it's awesome (free too).
From what I know, WoW is better than LotrO. It's pretty obvious really. I don't care about either of them: holding out for Warhammer Online, that is if it's as good as it could be.
I got bored with WoW, but I haven't tried LOTR. So play LOTR.WoW or LoTR
yah cuz i was looking to get one of them but for the price i wanted to make shure i was getting the better of the two
yah cuz i was looking to get one of them but for the price i wanted to make shure i was getting the better of the two
neither, hold out and wait for conan or Tabula Rasa. THey should be coming out soon and probably should be better then both.
LOTRO. Unless you enjoy grinding for hours on end, then WoW.
I like WoW. It's alot more fun when you go through the game with a friend. Playing solo sucks but sometimes that's your only option. It takes a little while for the game to get going. Don't judge the game on your first 10 levels. It get's alot of fun once you start doing instances and once you start to know your class. If all you do is grind, then yeah, you're making the game boring for yourself. Try to quest, do instances and group with players.
LOTRO is super boring. Ive played WoW for over two years and after the ''newness'' of LOTRO wore off (after a couple days) it was just an inferior WoW clone with the LOTR license.At least WoW has a large community, awesome quests, two different factions with unique races, and enjoyable (if you dont do it 8 hours a day) endgame content.If youre new to MMOs, go with WoW. If youre tired of WoW, give it a break for a month then renew your subscription.Dont get me wrong, I went into LOTRO with an optimistic attitude and by all means it is a very good game. It will soon problably have a rather large community as well, but it just doesnt cut it for me. In order for me to abandon WoW, I am gonna need something better than WoW and nothing has come along (EVE came close though, that trial was fun!).
LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.
[QUOTE=''-wildflower-''] LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.[/QUOTE]WoW never had a free month of game time...
if you enjoy a good story line and such than lotr, but if you enjoy pvpthan wow. i have played both and i enjoy wow more. or if you want to wait for warhammer online to come out its going to be awsome :-)
[QUOTE=''mrbojangles25''][QUOTE=''-wildflower-''] LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.[/QUOTE]WoW never had a free month of game time...[/QUOTE]Ummm, yes it did. o_O-wildflorwer-, you can't possibly see what WoW has to offer in just a month. I bet you didn't even give it a chance. Btw, ALL MMO's are a grind to some extent.The quests in WoW did make a little story. If you actually took the time to read them you wouldn't have made yourself look like an idiot and say there wasn't a story.
[QUOTE=''PC-Gamer''][QUOTE=''mrbojangles25''][QUOTE=''-wildflower-''] LotRO. WoW is really just and inferior AC2 clone with worse graphics and a community of maladjusted miscreants that makes a high security prison ward look like preschool. WoW also has an endless grind (farm this farm that; are we having fun yet?) and probably the world's worst written quests. Is there even a storyline in WoW? I never noticed one. I guess Blizzard forgot about the RPG part of the MMORPG equation. Simply said, WoW is quite possibly the most over-rated game of all time. I quit WoW after the free month expired but I've been playing LotRO since early beta and I am still enjoying it. The best thing I can say about WoW is that it keeps most of the sociopaths in one place so that the rest of the MMORPG gene pool is relatively pollution free.[/QUOTE]WoW never had a free month of game time...[/QUOTE]Ummm, yes it did. o_O-wildflorwer-, you can't possibly see what WoW has to offer in just a month. I bet you didn't even give it a chance. Btw, ALL MMO's are a grind to some extent.The quests in WoW did make a little story. If you actually took the time to read them you wouldn't have made yourself look like an idiot and say there wasn't a story.[/QUOTE] But there's nothing that really attaches all of those mini stories together. I played WoW for almost a year, and I can truly say that LOTROis better thanWoW when it comes to telling a tale. LOTRO excels at having all of the quests seem connected, and then on top of that give us 9 Epic books with many chapters, all with a very cinematic feel to them.In other ways yes, WoW is the better game, but what matters to me personally is a story that keeps me engaged and gives a purpose to my actions. And there's noticeably less farming and grind, which is what turned me off from WoW in the end.
A month is more than enough time for me to decide whether or not I like something. I gave WoW a chance, I wanted to like it, but I didn't. Sue me. My character made it to level 36 or so and I found the game to be a terrible grind. Oh, and I did read the ''quests'' (thanks for assuming though) and I still think they were poorly written and added nothing to the overall story of the game. Let me guess, you probably think Oblivion has an epic story too?
I haven't tried LORD, but I play WOW regularly and I am impressed with it. You might also want to check out Guild Wars. I also play that, and it's awesome (free too).
From what I know, WoW is better than LotrO. It's pretty obvious really. I don't care about either of them: holding out for Warhammer Online, that is if it's as good as it could be.
Your game ideas and protecting yourself. How?
We all have a game idea. My question is, how do we get our ideas to the ''right'' people and at the same time protecting ourselves from getting our idea taken and leaving us in the dirt?Any advice would be appreciated! Your game ideas and protecting yourself. How?
I would start by learning about copyright laws and how to properly protect your ideas, not to mention what falls under protection. My first instinct says you should at the very least write down your ideas in great detail, and do a poor man's copyright (certified mail to yourself). Although I really am unsure of the actual legality of this method, as this is just something I have heard.If you are really serious about this, you really need to research this in great detail.http://www.copyright.gov/Your game ideas and protecting yourself. How?
Thank you for your reply.I currently have a work in progress written down in chapters, background, sketches and game mechanics, but I don't know how to show them to somebody.Basically, when I am ready to present my idea in all its ''glory'', who do I go to?
I have no idea but you could probably send an email to the main game publishers and developers to see if they would be willing to look at your idea - it couldn't hurt to hear what they have to say.
I think a good start might be for you to write a developer an email/letter asking these kinds of questions. I think most developers would at least give you the information on the different avenues you can pursue in order to present your ideas.
At least in the US, you inherently have a Copyright to any work that you make - if you can prove that you were the creator. This inherent Copyright isnt a substitute for a real copyright though.Once your work is finished or mostly finished, you should apply for a legal copyright. You can send it out to whomever you like after that.Not to discourage you, realistically, it will be nearly impossible for anyone to look at your ideas and even harder to get any publisher to put it forth. Alot of that has to do with the fact that the publisher owns the developers that work, and the work that the developers make is treated as the publishers property. By introducing a 3rd party, like the story writer, they no longer own all the property and publishers would much rather not deal with that.Your best bet is to try and make a mod out of it. If you can start your own team because you've convinced people based on your idea and story, then you know you've got a good idea. If you cant, then your idea just simply wasnt good enough to get anyone else excited.
[QUOTE=''savvon'']We all have a game idea. [/QUOTE]As I work for a Developer, I can tell you that what you said above is precisely your problem. Everyone has a game idea, even the people that work for a Developer. Ideas are one of the few things in Game Development that don't require outsourcing or hiring of new people.
Developers generally wont accept or even look at submitted game designs due to legal issues. If they look at submissions and one of them happens to be close to what they're already working on that could cause unnecessary lawsuits, so they generally don't even read them.As for protecting your own ideas... well, the best way would be to actually do them. You cannot copyright just an idea, it has to be something whether it's a simple DOS game, a design write-up, picture etc. That will only protect what you include in that write-up though, and nothing is stopping someone from taking bits and pieces then tweaking it so it's no longer the same as yours. If you have an idea of something like the way a server should work, or a specific gameplay feature, you may be able to get the idea patented. There have been some pretty vague patents in the past which have won in court cases. For example...[quote]''transactions in which a trusted intermediary securely processes payments over a communications system such as the Internet. The use of a trusted intermediary ensures that one party will not have to disclose sensitive information, such as a credit card number or bank account number, to the other party to the transaction.''[/quote]That's an extremely basic method of transaction yet it was filed early enough (1991) to have hit before it's usage was widespread. If you have a revolutionary gameplay feature you could try patenting it. I don't know who effective it would be though.But honestly, unless you put your ideas into action there's not a whole lot of protection for your ideas. With the gaming industry having closed itself off from the public due to possible legal concerns, unless you create the game or a mod of the game it will largely come down to who you know. Basically then you'll pass it on and hope one day you'll hear back.[QUOTE=''dnuggs40'']My first instinct says you should at the very least write down your ideas in great detail, and do a poor man's copyright (certified mail to yourself). Although I really am unsure of the actual legality of this method, as this is just something I have heard.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this isn't accepted as evidence in court. It can be used to try to argue that you created something on X date but ultimately only filing the proper copyright paper will give any recognizable protection.
I would start by learning about copyright laws and how to properly protect your ideas, not to mention what falls under protection. My first instinct says you should at the very least write down your ideas in great detail, and do a poor man's copyright (certified mail to yourself). Although I really am unsure of the actual legality of this method, as this is just something I have heard.If you are really serious about this, you really need to research this in great detail.http://www.copyright.gov/Your game ideas and protecting yourself. How?
Thank you for your reply.I currently have a work in progress written down in chapters, background, sketches and game mechanics, but I don't know how to show them to somebody.Basically, when I am ready to present my idea in all its ''glory'', who do I go to?
I have no idea but you could probably send an email to the main game publishers and developers to see if they would be willing to look at your idea - it couldn't hurt to hear what they have to say.
I think a good start might be for you to write a developer an email/letter asking these kinds of questions. I think most developers would at least give you the information on the different avenues you can pursue in order to present your ideas.
At least in the US, you inherently have a Copyright to any work that you make - if you can prove that you were the creator. This inherent Copyright isnt a substitute for a real copyright though.Once your work is finished or mostly finished, you should apply for a legal copyright. You can send it out to whomever you like after that.Not to discourage you, realistically, it will be nearly impossible for anyone to look at your ideas and even harder to get any publisher to put it forth. Alot of that has to do with the fact that the publisher owns the developers that work, and the work that the developers make is treated as the publishers property. By introducing a 3rd party, like the story writer, they no longer own all the property and publishers would much rather not deal with that.Your best bet is to try and make a mod out of it. If you can start your own team because you've convinced people based on your idea and story, then you know you've got a good idea. If you cant, then your idea just simply wasnt good enough to get anyone else excited.
[QUOTE=''savvon'']We all have a game idea. [/QUOTE]As I work for a Developer, I can tell you that what you said above is precisely your problem. Everyone has a game idea, even the people that work for a Developer. Ideas are one of the few things in Game Development that don't require outsourcing or hiring of new people.
Developers generally wont accept or even look at submitted game designs due to legal issues. If they look at submissions and one of them happens to be close to what they're already working on that could cause unnecessary lawsuits, so they generally don't even read them.As for protecting your own ideas... well, the best way would be to actually do them. You cannot copyright just an idea, it has to be something whether it's a simple DOS game, a design write-up, picture etc. That will only protect what you include in that write-up though, and nothing is stopping someone from taking bits and pieces then tweaking it so it's no longer the same as yours. If you have an idea of something like the way a server should work, or a specific gameplay feature, you may be able to get the idea patented. There have been some pretty vague patents in the past which have won in court cases. For example...[quote]''transactions in which a trusted intermediary securely processes payments over a communications system such as the Internet. The use of a trusted intermediary ensures that one party will not have to disclose sensitive information, such as a credit card number or bank account number, to the other party to the transaction.''[/quote]That's an extremely basic method of transaction yet it was filed early enough (1991) to have hit before it's usage was widespread. If you have a revolutionary gameplay feature you could try patenting it. I don't know who effective it would be though.But honestly, unless you put your ideas into action there's not a whole lot of protection for your ideas. With the gaming industry having closed itself off from the public due to possible legal concerns, unless you create the game or a mod of the game it will largely come down to who you know. Basically then you'll pass it on and hope one day you'll hear back.[QUOTE=''dnuggs40'']My first instinct says you should at the very least write down your ideas in great detail, and do a poor man's copyright (certified mail to yourself). Although I really am unsure of the actual legality of this method, as this is just something I have heard.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this isn't accepted as evidence in court. It can be used to try to argue that you created something on X date but ultimately only filing the proper copyright paper will give any recognizable protection.
Two Worlds!
When is it coming out in north america are your hopes high?Two Worlds!
Probably July 17th and the game is awesome (so I hear). Two Worlds!
I've heard very mixed things about it. Some people say it's amazing while others say it's crap. I do know that it is a total hardware hog though, so you better have a good system if you are planning on getting it.
I hear mixed things too. It sounds almost like Gothic 3, you either love it or hate it.
is it anythign like oblivion?
yes i think that comment checks out lol
Well, in that it is a large scale RPG with really nice graphics. Plus, you can perform alchemy and other similar things as Oblivion. Two worlds has stackable weapons, which is a cool way of getting the stats up on your favorite sword or bow. The combat is different though, and is largely a button fest. One of the things the developer is working on now is to get the balance right, because people are finding that early on the game is quite hard but after level 10 or so, the game gets too easy, due to the stackable weapons/gear and super powerful spells. By the time it comes to the US though, most of these issues should be worked out (they have already had four patches for the game, the last, 1.4 was quite large too).
yes i heard about the stacking weapons it sounds awsome!! also its online isent it!!! personally i think this game is going to be awsome :)
You can find the official form here:http://board.zuxxez.com/
Well, its like gothic 3 in some way, but world is rather boring (Im playing it from yesterday, so I may be wrong). Graphics is not as good as Gothic 3 or Oblivion.And its quite a system hog. Patch 1.4 fixed some of the issues, but its still a buggy game. Fighting style is lame. But there are many tricks when your fighting. Like, you can throw dirt in their eyes. Front jump and back jump assigned into 2 keys..so its a pain to play sometimes and dodge your enemies.
awsome! thanks
what kind of buggy problems is the game having?
One of the biggest early complaints were the horses, which got stuck on any slight incline, but 1.4 was supposed to fix that. plus, there are doors that won't open, broken quest lines, that sort of thing - typical for large RPGs with myriad quests. And I think Blitz is wrong, I think the graphics are in line with Oblivion and definitely better than G3 (maybe Blitz didn't have the rig to handle the graphics turned up all the way *shrug*)
Naplam, if I'm wrong then look at this.....http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tw1jeezgb9.jpgAnd I may not got a top of the rig, but my rig can handle the graphics.Sorry for the late post. I was busy for my college project.
@ Blitz, well to each his own. I thought the graphics were amazing, some of the best I have seen. What's more, the game has incredible atmosphere.
Probably July 17th and the game is awesome (so I hear). Two Worlds!
I've heard very mixed things about it. Some people say it's amazing while others say it's crap. I do know that it is a total hardware hog though, so you better have a good system if you are planning on getting it.
I hear mixed things too. It sounds almost like Gothic 3, you either love it or hate it.
is it anythign like oblivion?
yes i think that comment checks out lol
Well, in that it is a large scale RPG with really nice graphics. Plus, you can perform alchemy and other similar things as Oblivion. Two worlds has stackable weapons, which is a cool way of getting the stats up on your favorite sword or bow. The combat is different though, and is largely a button fest. One of the things the developer is working on now is to get the balance right, because people are finding that early on the game is quite hard but after level 10 or so, the game gets too easy, due to the stackable weapons/gear and super powerful spells. By the time it comes to the US though, most of these issues should be worked out (they have already had four patches for the game, the last, 1.4 was quite large too).
yes i heard about the stacking weapons it sounds awsome!! also its online isent it!!! personally i think this game is going to be awsome :)
You can find the official form here:http://board.zuxxez.com/
Well, its like gothic 3 in some way, but world is rather boring (Im playing it from yesterday, so I may be wrong). Graphics is not as good as Gothic 3 or Oblivion.And its quite a system hog. Patch 1.4 fixed some of the issues, but its still a buggy game. Fighting style is lame. But there are many tricks when your fighting. Like, you can throw dirt in their eyes. Front jump and back jump assigned into 2 keys..so its a pain to play sometimes and dodge your enemies.
awsome! thanks
what kind of buggy problems is the game having?
One of the biggest early complaints were the horses, which got stuck on any slight incline, but 1.4 was supposed to fix that. plus, there are doors that won't open, broken quest lines, that sort of thing - typical for large RPGs with myriad quests. And I think Blitz is wrong, I think the graphics are in line with Oblivion and definitely better than G3 (maybe Blitz didn't have the rig to handle the graphics turned up all the way *shrug*)
Naplam, if I'm wrong then look at this.....http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tw1jeezgb9.jpgAnd I may not got a top of the rig, but my rig can handle the graphics.Sorry for the late post. I was busy for my college project.
@ Blitz, well to each his own. I thought the graphics were amazing, some of the best I have seen. What's more, the game has incredible atmosphere.
Will this 7600 GT run company of heroes maxed smoothly?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150210it will be at a resolution of 1024x768. or if neccesary to run smoother, 800x600. will it run MAXED smoothly at a great framerate?Will this 7600 GT run company of heroes maxed smoothly?
smooth for meWill this 7600 GT run company of heroes maxed smoothly?
[QUOTE=''couly'']smooth for me[/QUOTE]
with everything maxed, on ultra, running fast paced and smoothly, like in gamespots videos, even in intense harsh battles?
[QUOTE=''TakaNui''][QUOTE=''couly'']smooth for me[/QUOTE]
with everything maxed, on ultra, running fast paced and smoothly, like in gamespots videos, even in intense harsh battles?[/QUOTE]
my 7800gt runs it at 1600x1200 with all else maxed smoothly, so as long as you've got rec spec cpu and ram, i don't see why the 7600gt would struggle with 1024x
[QUOTE=''A-S_FM'']my 7800gt runs it at 1600x1200 with all else maxed smoothly, so as long as you've got rec spec cpu and ram, i don't see why the 7600gt would struggle with 1024x[/QUOTE]
i have 2 gb DDR RAM and an AMD Athlon XP 3000+ processor. ive heard it will from ''1'' person, so i wanted to know
My 7800GT didn't run smoothly @ 1680x1050 maxed, with a Core2 6800Xtreme, and the 7800GT was overclocked. Obviously your definition of ''smooth'' is different than mine. Perhaps the word your looking for is ''Playable''. Even at 1280x1024 it wasn't very smooth.
I've got a PCIe 7600GT from evga and I can run any game new or old on max settings at 1024x768 (I prefer that - anything over is excessive). I only have a gig of ram and a 3500+, so the 7600GT is doing all the work. I'm sure it's a bit faster than the AGP version, but you should be able to run CoH maxed or at least max at 800x600.
[QUOTE=''A-S_FM'']my 7800gt runs it at 1600x1200 with all else maxed smoothly, so as long as you've got rec spec cpu and ram, i don't see why the 7600gt would struggle with 1024x[/QUOTE]
What? Hah! My old SLI 7800GTX's had a problem running that game with all options maxed. I call BS.
No way...
My card runs it at 50fps maxed out: x1950xtx at 1200 by 1000 rez. If i go upto 1600 by 1200 then it goes down to 30.The 7600gt is ALOT less powerful and wont be able to do it.
I have a 7600gs 256mb and run it at max(except for tree detail which is at medium) at 1280x960 it runs very nicely, even in big battles. So since 7600gt is a bit faster than the 7600gs, I guess it would run great, especially at 1024x768 or 800x600.
Edit: Oh, I just checked, I have textures set to high, not ultra. It's not too much of a difference, unless you zoom all the way in and carefully analyse the textures on soldiers clothing.
Dnt know about ''MAX' but should run pretty high IMO It ran Med @ 1024x768 on my 6600 and only lagged when I was using 6 long ange artilery to blow out a couple of tanks :P
.. I doubt it, your guys' definition of ''smooth'' must mean at 30fps, i was running this game before i upgraded my comp on this old specs; Nvidia 7950 GX2 1.3Ghz 1GB DDR3 Memory, 1Gb RAM, intel p4 single core 3.2ghz
but now i have yet to find a game that WONT run at max with my new pc :) .
I dont see how it would, I have a 7950GT, run the game most things max and the rest medium at 1280x1024 at an average of 50+fps, I dont see how a 7600GT could get this game with that pefromance at max, look at Gamespots peformance guide.
with Duo core 6300, 2GB Ram (dual channel) 15,000rpm hard disk and a 7600GT,
this game will smoothly at 1024x resolution with everything maxed up, got an average of 45fps,
those pp thatl gave a fortune for their pcs and mubbling about 50fps and 100fps should get a life,
the game is ''playable'' with my old pc (AMD 2200,512RAM,ATI9800)
the 7600GT is more than capable to run this game smoothly, since is it was designed to even run with older cards than that,
any average frame rate above 40FPS is an exaggeration IMO, because practically you see no difference,
an increased FPS rate would secure that there are no problems to the games ruthms under any circumstances and the frequency such problems may appear is what makes the game playable.
I havent experienced more than one or two in the entire game's length and that was because 2-3 more programs were running in the background... thats is not just playable, its smooth enough, the rest is an exaggeration, there is plenty of room for them...
1650x1050 widescreen for me, homey. Granted, I have 2GB of memory, a core 2 duo, and a suhweeeeet 680i chipset motherboard, but ya...a 7600GT will run it maxed for you.
1st off, ChocoKat, the game had SLi problems from release, a patch had to fix it, its at the end of gamespots review...
now, im going with itll be maxed, but even in the largest of battles? running smoothly and quickly?
[QUOTE=''TakaNui'']1st off, ChocoKat, the game had SLi problems from release, a patch had to fix it, its at the end of gamespots review...
now, im going with itll be maxed, but even in the largest of battles? running smoothly and quickly? [/QUOTE]
No way will it be smooth and quick through large battles at max settings, I would imagine it would be ok but I would consider smooth for COH above the 40fps mark, with all that crap going on at once at max settings I dont see how a 7600GT could get more than 30fps.
It says on Gamespots Hardware guide that maxed out at 1280x1024 a Radeon X1950 Crossfire can only benchmark 30fps average, so I cant see how a 7600GT could stack up at that quality, but I doubt it would be what you could call smooth.
[QUOTE=''TakaNui'']1st off, ChocoKat, the game had SLi problems from release, a patch had to fix it, its at the end of gamespots review...
now, im going with itll be maxed, but even in the largest of battles? running smoothly and quickly? [/QUOTE]
Well thanks for telling me something I already know. Your card will not run that game smoothly at maxed settings. Hell, I thought I was playing the game smoothly with 7800gtx's, until I got my 8800gtx. I then realised how crappy and slow the game was prior.
30 FPS is crappy in company of heros. If you're ever in Maryland I will show you the difference.
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smooth for meWill this 7600 GT run company of heroes maxed smoothly?
[QUOTE=''couly'']smooth for me[/QUOTE]
with everything maxed, on ultra, running fast paced and smoothly, like in gamespots videos, even in intense harsh battles?
[QUOTE=''TakaNui''][QUOTE=''couly'']smooth for me[/QUOTE]
with everything maxed, on ultra, running fast paced and smoothly, like in gamespots videos, even in intense harsh battles?[/QUOTE]
my 7800gt runs it at 1600x1200 with all else maxed smoothly, so as long as you've got rec spec cpu and ram, i don't see why the 7600gt would struggle with 1024x
[QUOTE=''A-S_FM'']my 7800gt runs it at 1600x1200 with all else maxed smoothly, so as long as you've got rec spec cpu and ram, i don't see why the 7600gt would struggle with 1024x[/QUOTE]
i have 2 gb DDR RAM and an AMD Athlon XP 3000+ processor. ive heard it will from ''1'' person, so i wanted to know
My 7800GT didn't run smoothly @ 1680x1050 maxed, with a Core2 6800Xtreme, and the 7800GT was overclocked. Obviously your definition of ''smooth'' is different than mine. Perhaps the word your looking for is ''Playable''. Even at 1280x1024 it wasn't very smooth.
I've got a PCIe 7600GT from evga and I can run any game new or old on max settings at 1024x768 (I prefer that - anything over is excessive). I only have a gig of ram and a 3500+, so the 7600GT is doing all the work. I'm sure it's a bit faster than the AGP version, but you should be able to run CoH maxed or at least max at 800x600.
[QUOTE=''A-S_FM'']my 7800gt runs it at 1600x1200 with all else maxed smoothly, so as long as you've got rec spec cpu and ram, i don't see why the 7600gt would struggle with 1024x[/QUOTE]
What? Hah! My old SLI 7800GTX's had a problem running that game with all options maxed. I call BS.
No way...
My card runs it at 50fps maxed out: x1950xtx at 1200 by 1000 rez. If i go upto 1600 by 1200 then it goes down to 30.The 7600gt is ALOT less powerful and wont be able to do it.
I have a 7600gs 256mb and run it at max(except for tree detail which is at medium) at 1280x960 it runs very nicely, even in big battles. So since 7600gt is a bit faster than the 7600gs, I guess it would run great, especially at 1024x768 or 800x600.
Edit: Oh, I just checked, I have textures set to high, not ultra. It's not too much of a difference, unless you zoom all the way in and carefully analyse the textures on soldiers clothing.
Dnt know about ''MAX' but should run pretty high IMO It ran Med @ 1024x768 on my 6600 and only lagged when I was using 6 long ange artilery to blow out a couple of tanks :P
.. I doubt it, your guys' definition of ''smooth'' must mean at 30fps, i was running this game before i upgraded my comp on this old specs; Nvidia 7950 GX2 1.3Ghz 1GB DDR3 Memory, 1Gb RAM, intel p4 single core 3.2ghz
but now i have yet to find a game that WONT run at max with my new pc :) .
I dont see how it would, I have a 7950GT, run the game most things max and the rest medium at 1280x1024 at an average of 50+fps, I dont see how a 7600GT could get this game with that pefromance at max, look at Gamespots peformance guide.
with Duo core 6300, 2GB Ram (dual channel) 15,000rpm hard disk and a 7600GT,
this game will smoothly at 1024x resolution with everything maxed up, got an average of 45fps,
those pp thatl gave a fortune for their pcs and mubbling about 50fps and 100fps should get a life,
the game is ''playable'' with my old pc (AMD 2200,512RAM,ATI9800)
the 7600GT is more than capable to run this game smoothly, since is it was designed to even run with older cards than that,
any average frame rate above 40FPS is an exaggeration IMO, because practically you see no difference,
an increased FPS rate would secure that there are no problems to the games ruthms under any circumstances and the frequency such problems may appear is what makes the game playable.
I havent experienced more than one or two in the entire game's length and that was because 2-3 more programs were running in the background... thats is not just playable, its smooth enough, the rest is an exaggeration, there is plenty of room for them...
1650x1050 widescreen for me, homey. Granted, I have 2GB of memory, a core 2 duo, and a suhweeeeet 680i chipset motherboard, but ya...a 7600GT will run it maxed for you.
1st off, ChocoKat, the game had SLi problems from release, a patch had to fix it, its at the end of gamespots review...
now, im going with itll be maxed, but even in the largest of battles? running smoothly and quickly?
[QUOTE=''TakaNui'']1st off, ChocoKat, the game had SLi problems from release, a patch had to fix it, its at the end of gamespots review...
now, im going with itll be maxed, but even in the largest of battles? running smoothly and quickly? [/QUOTE]
No way will it be smooth and quick through large battles at max settings, I would imagine it would be ok but I would consider smooth for COH above the 40fps mark, with all that crap going on at once at max settings I dont see how a 7600GT could get more than 30fps.
It says on Gamespots Hardware guide that maxed out at 1280x1024 a Radeon X1950 Crossfire can only benchmark 30fps average, so I cant see how a 7600GT could stack up at that quality, but I doubt it would be what you could call smooth.
[QUOTE=''TakaNui'']1st off, ChocoKat, the game had SLi problems from release, a patch had to fix it, its at the end of gamespots review...
now, im going with itll be maxed, but even in the largest of battles? running smoothly and quickly? [/QUOTE]
Well thanks for telling me something I already know. Your card will not run that game smoothly at maxed settings. Hell, I thought I was playing the game smoothly with 7800gtx's, until I got my 8800gtx. I then realised how crappy and slow the game was prior.
30 FPS is crappy in company of heros. If you're ever in Maryland I will show you the difference.
Games similar to Arcanum or Fallout series?
I found these games to be similar in play style and enjoyed them alot, anyone know of others that are similar? Doesn't matter how old the game is or what kind of graphics it has.Games similar to Arcanum or Fallout series?
[QUOTE=''Twelfth_Man'']I found these games to be similar in play style and enjoyed them alot, anyone know of others that are similar? Doesn't matter how old the game is or what kind of graphics it has.[/QUOTE]If you have a passion for such brilliant games as those, you are hereby required to play Planescape: Torment. And perhaps Baldur's Gate.. Those four games are up there as the best RPGs ever. I consider Bloodlines up there, as well, but it's an FPS. But as for 'play style'.. And not awesome story and RPG depth-ness.. There's tons of 'top down RPG' games around.. Mostly based on DnD.. NWN, etc.Games similar to Arcanum or Fallout series?
Thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to try Planescape then. I've already played through Bloodlines and found it to be fun after all the major bugs were fixed.
all i can think of is After Fall made by a polish dev team, its not out yet but from what ive seen its fallout in and around Germany, Poland, and Russia. Looks great and the story seem very good, cant wait, will have to probably special order it though
Ahhhh, good ol Fallout and Arcanum haha. yea I would definately reccomend Baldurs Gate Series, the entire thing and Torment as well. Torment is one of the best RPGs ever concieved!
Torment, Darklands, Planet's Edge, Wasteland, Ultima VII
Oh yeah.. Divine Divinity! And some really old games are interesting and different from many of todays.. Try Dark Sun! Really old, but cool
Another game with an almost identical gameplay style is Silent Storm. It's less of an RPG and more of a squad-based tactical combat game, but the turn-based combat is as good as, if not better than, Arcanum and Fallout.It's more like Fallout, but it has fully destructible environements, allowing for a hell of a lot more freedom gameplay-wise. Want to stop a group of guards from coming down some stairs to attack you? Shoot out the stairs. Want to get into the basement? Detonate some explosives on the ground. It's awesome.
I've only played Fallout briefly, but it reminded me a bit of Jagged Alliance. I didn't get into it though so I can't say for sure.
[QUOTE=''Old_Gooseberry'']I've only played Fallout briefly, but it reminded me a bit of Jagged Alliance. I didn't get into it though so I can't say for sure.[/QUOTE]
You sure you played Fallout and not Fallout: Tactics? Because Fallout has little in comparison to Jagged Alliance.
I will recommend you Lionheart. It is a good RPG and has perks and a lot of skills. (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/lionheart/index.html?tag=result;title;1)
[QUOTE=''gamer620''][QUOTE=''Old_Gooseberry'']I've only played Fallout briefly, but it reminded me a bit of Jagged Alliance. I didn't get into it though so I can't say for sure.[/QUOTE] You sure you played Fallout and not Fallout: Tactics? Because Fallout has little in comparison to Jagged Alliance.[/QUOTE]probably...its been like 30 years at least
Try Silent Storm - it's a hidden gem. Very similar tactics used like Fallout 1/2 (ie turned based). It's a WW2 game is a small twist. I'm playing it at the moment and it's great.
A couple of other top down RPGs I'd suggest that are a lot of funare Sacred, Divine Divinity, and Nox.
Silent Storm is great, but it's a Turn Based Tactical Strategy... like Jagged Alliance, X-Com and Fallout Tactics... Fallout it self is a RPG... not many games like Fallout 1 and 2... The Fall: Last Days of Gaia looks good, but it only seems to be out in Germany:( Check http://www.the-fall.com/ What is it about Fallout you like? Maybe we can suggest something with similar game mechanics that might be from a differant Genre all together?Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)
Definitely Planescape Torment, and if you like that sort of thing, Baldur's Gate and maybe Icewind Dale as well.Will have to find my Arcanum discs. It was great fun, but i never got round to completing it.
[QUOTE=''MindlessTeef'']Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)[/QUOTE]In the case they don't make FO3 to be a first person Action(80%) RPG(20%) then yeah, I agree with you.
[QUOTE=''Erlkoenig''] [QUOTE=''MindlessTeef'']Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)[/QUOTE]In the case they don't make FO3 to be a first person Action(80%) RPG(20%) then yeah, I agree with you.[/QUOTE]There is a Fallout 3 tech demo out there that is in the out there that is in the same style as the other Fallout games but it may be the tech demo put out when it was first being developed by the original developer.
[QUOTE=''Avenger1324'']Definitely Planescape Torment, and if you like that sort of thing, Baldur's Gate and maybe Icewind Dale as well.Will have to find my Arcanum discs. It was great fun, but i never got round to completing it.[/QUOTE]Don't expect much from the very very last parts of the game.. There's no more.. 'omg wow' factor in it via the storyline, except for maybe one or two plot twists.. (which isn't much compared to the full game) But it's still nice.. ish.. Not much of an 'ending' though, but I didn't mind it personally
[QUOTE=''thanatose''][QUOTE=''Erlkoenig''] [QUOTE=''MindlessTeef'']Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)[/QUOTE]In the case they don't make FO3 to be a first person Action(80%) RPG(20%) then yeah, I agree with you.[/QUOTE]There is a Fallout 3 tech demo out there that is in the out there that is in the same style as the other Fallout games but it may be the tech demo put out when it was first being developed by the original developer.[/QUOTE]You're thinking of the Fallout 3 that was being made by Black Isle before they went defunct, which they recently released the code for to the public. It has no connections whatsoever to the Fallout being made by Bethesda.
[QUOTE=''Twelfth_Man'']I found these games to be similar in play style and enjoyed them alot, anyone know of others that are similar? Doesn't matter how old the game is or what kind of graphics it has.[/QUOTE]If you have a passion for such brilliant games as those, you are hereby required to play Planescape: Torment. And perhaps Baldur's Gate.. Those four games are up there as the best RPGs ever. I consider Bloodlines up there, as well, but it's an FPS. But as for 'play style'.. And not awesome story and RPG depth-ness.. There's tons of 'top down RPG' games around.. Mostly based on DnD.. NWN, etc.Games similar to Arcanum or Fallout series?
Thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to try Planescape then. I've already played through Bloodlines and found it to be fun after all the major bugs were fixed.
all i can think of is After Fall made by a polish dev team, its not out yet but from what ive seen its fallout in and around Germany, Poland, and Russia. Looks great and the story seem very good, cant wait, will have to probably special order it though
Ahhhh, good ol Fallout and Arcanum haha. yea I would definately reccomend Baldurs Gate Series, the entire thing and Torment as well. Torment is one of the best RPGs ever concieved!
Torment, Darklands, Planet's Edge, Wasteland, Ultima VII
Oh yeah.. Divine Divinity! And some really old games are interesting and different from many of todays.. Try Dark Sun! Really old, but cool
Another game with an almost identical gameplay style is Silent Storm. It's less of an RPG and more of a squad-based tactical combat game, but the turn-based combat is as good as, if not better than, Arcanum and Fallout.It's more like Fallout, but it has fully destructible environements, allowing for a hell of a lot more freedom gameplay-wise. Want to stop a group of guards from coming down some stairs to attack you? Shoot out the stairs. Want to get into the basement? Detonate some explosives on the ground. It's awesome.
I've only played Fallout briefly, but it reminded me a bit of Jagged Alliance. I didn't get into it though so I can't say for sure.
[QUOTE=''Old_Gooseberry'']I've only played Fallout briefly, but it reminded me a bit of Jagged Alliance. I didn't get into it though so I can't say for sure.[/QUOTE]
You sure you played Fallout and not Fallout: Tactics? Because Fallout has little in comparison to Jagged Alliance.
I will recommend you Lionheart. It is a good RPG and has perks and a lot of skills. (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/lionheart/index.html?tag=result;title;1)
[QUOTE=''gamer620''][QUOTE=''Old_Gooseberry'']I've only played Fallout briefly, but it reminded me a bit of Jagged Alliance. I didn't get into it though so I can't say for sure.[/QUOTE] You sure you played Fallout and not Fallout: Tactics? Because Fallout has little in comparison to Jagged Alliance.[/QUOTE]probably...its been like 30 years at least
Try Silent Storm - it's a hidden gem. Very similar tactics used like Fallout 1/2 (ie turned based). It's a WW2 game is a small twist. I'm playing it at the moment and it's great.
A couple of other top down RPGs I'd suggest that are a lot of funare Sacred, Divine Divinity, and Nox.
Silent Storm is great, but it's a Turn Based Tactical Strategy... like Jagged Alliance, X-Com and Fallout Tactics... Fallout it self is a RPG... not many games like Fallout 1 and 2... The Fall: Last Days of Gaia looks good, but it only seems to be out in Germany:( Check http://www.the-fall.com/ What is it about Fallout you like? Maybe we can suggest something with similar game mechanics that might be from a differant Genre all together?Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)
Definitely Planescape Torment, and if you like that sort of thing, Baldur's Gate and maybe Icewind Dale as well.Will have to find my Arcanum discs. It was great fun, but i never got round to completing it.
[QUOTE=''MindlessTeef'']Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)[/QUOTE]In the case they don't make FO3 to be a first person Action(80%) RPG(20%) then yeah, I agree with you.
[QUOTE=''Erlkoenig''] [QUOTE=''MindlessTeef'']Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)[/QUOTE]In the case they don't make FO3 to be a first person Action(80%) RPG(20%) then yeah, I agree with you.[/QUOTE]There is a Fallout 3 tech demo out there that is in the out there that is in the same style as the other Fallout games but it may be the tech demo put out when it was first being developed by the original developer.
[QUOTE=''Avenger1324'']Definitely Planescape Torment, and if you like that sort of thing, Baldur's Gate and maybe Icewind Dale as well.Will have to find my Arcanum discs. It was great fun, but i never got round to completing it.[/QUOTE]Don't expect much from the very very last parts of the game.. There's no more.. 'omg wow' factor in it via the storyline, except for maybe one or two plot twists.. (which isn't much compared to the full game) But it's still nice.. ish.. Not much of an 'ending' though, but I didn't mind it personally
[QUOTE=''thanatose''][QUOTE=''Erlkoenig''] [QUOTE=''MindlessTeef'']Otherwise you might just want to wait for Fallout 3 like the rest of it... made by the same lot that made Oblivion, can only be a good thing:)[/QUOTE]In the case they don't make FO3 to be a first person Action(80%) RPG(20%) then yeah, I agree with you.[/QUOTE]There is a Fallout 3 tech demo out there that is in the out there that is in the same style as the other Fallout games but it may be the tech demo put out when it was first being developed by the original developer.[/QUOTE]You're thinking of the Fallout 3 that was being made by Black Isle before they went defunct, which they recently released the code for to the public. It has no connections whatsoever to the Fallout being made by Bethesda.
Oblivion install problem HELP!
Ok, awhile ago I uninstalled Oblivion, probably using the Add/Remove programs (it was awhile ago). Then I went and deleted the files from my Program files. The only problem is one file stayed on the computer in the add remove section, but I can't remove it. Now when I put the disk in it says play, but the game isn't installed, and when I hit uninstall, it says the exe isn't found. So basically I can't install or uninstall it.Help?Oblivion install problem HELP!
oblivion still has entries in the registry that need to be deleted. either get a registry cleaner, or if you know the way around the registry you can do it yourselfOblivion install problem HELP!
[QUOTE=''CYSYKO'']oblivion still has entries in the registry that need to be deleted. either get a registry cleaner, or if you know the way around the registry you can do it yourself[/QUOTE]Where's the registry lol? Where do I get a registry cleaner?
What are you trying to do, install or uninstall it completely?If you're trying to install it just go into My Computer, right-click your drive with the Oblivion DVD in it, click ''Explore'' then run the setup.exe on the DVD. It will take you directly toOblivion's installation and you can install from there.If you're trying to uninstall it fully, either follow the above post, or if you're uncomfortable doing that simply reinstall it using the method I post above, then uninstall. With luck the uninstall will actually clean it outafter doing that.
Thank you very much, lol! I was trying to install it, and I never knew about explore. It's working and I'm installing it now. Thanks.
Yeah, I remember reading about this glitch in the readme; it should work fine if you run setup.exe from the DVD.
[QUOTE=''sircyrus'']What are you trying to do, install or uninstall it completely?If you're trying to install it just go into My Computer, right-click your drive with the Oblivion DVD in it, click ''Explore'' then run the setup.exe on the DVD. It will take you directly toOblivion's installation and you can install from there.If you're trying to uninstall it fully, either follow the above post, or if you're uncomfortable doing that simply reinstall it using the method I post above, then uninstall. With luck the uninstall will actually clean it outafter doing that.[/QUOTE]good call
oblivion still has entries in the registry that need to be deleted. either get a registry cleaner, or if you know the way around the registry you can do it yourselfOblivion install problem HELP!
[QUOTE=''CYSYKO'']oblivion still has entries in the registry that need to be deleted. either get a registry cleaner, or if you know the way around the registry you can do it yourself[/QUOTE]Where's the registry lol? Where do I get a registry cleaner?
What are you trying to do, install or uninstall it completely?If you're trying to install it just go into My Computer, right-click your drive with the Oblivion DVD in it, click ''Explore'' then run the setup.exe on the DVD. It will take you directly toOblivion's installation and you can install from there.If you're trying to uninstall it fully, either follow the above post, or if you're uncomfortable doing that simply reinstall it using the method I post above, then uninstall. With luck the uninstall will actually clean it outafter doing that.
Thank you very much, lol! I was trying to install it, and I never knew about explore. It's working and I'm installing it now. Thanks.
Yeah, I remember reading about this glitch in the readme; it should work fine if you run setup.exe from the DVD.
[QUOTE=''sircyrus'']What are you trying to do, install or uninstall it completely?If you're trying to install it just go into My Computer, right-click your drive with the Oblivion DVD in it, click ''Explore'' then run the setup.exe on the DVD. It will take you directly toOblivion's installation and you can install from there.If you're trying to uninstall it fully, either follow the above post, or if you're uncomfortable doing that simply reinstall it using the method I post above, then uninstall. With luck the uninstall will actually clean it outafter doing that.[/QUOTE]good call
a resolution question?
I have a 22in widescreen monitor. in all the benchmarks ive seen games run way better on lower resolutions, so wouldnt it make sence torun everything at 800x600? or does monitor size have to be added in the equation as well? could you guys suggest a resolution for me to run at that looks good and preforms well? my monitor supprts a max of 1680x1050 and i have a X1950pro 256mb. thanks guysa resolution question?
here's all you options for widescreen resolutions1680x1050 1440x900 1280x800 1024x640 800x500 lowering the resolutions will help you get better performance but they will make the visuals worse by making everything all blocky and sometimes blurry you have a nice card (x1950pro) so it should run all those resolutions fine but i wouldn't go lower than 1440x900 because it should be able to run it perfect and when you mess with the resolution in games make sure the aspect ratio is 16:10 a resolution question?
[QUOTE=''payton88'']I have a 22in widescreen monitor. in all the benchmarks ive seen games run way better on lower resolutions, so wouldnt it make sence torun everything at 800x600? or does monitor size have to be added in the equation as well? could you guys suggest a resolution for me to run at that looks good and preforms well? my monitor supprts a max of 1680x1050 and i have a X1950pro 256mb. thanks guys[/QUOTE] have you tried and play a gamein 800x600 res on your monitor lol ? it will look terible, a lot worse thewn what an oldfashion 22'' crt screen would have looked like on that res. this has to do with how the LCD work. they are essensially made to work on optimum res and the moreyou lower the res the worse it looks becourse your LCD monitor has built in it 1680x1050 liquid crystals per inc, and as you lower your res, your monitor has to shut down some of those to show the res you choose, the consequence of this is that you get a mutch more blury picture then you would have on an old crt. i sugjest that you play your game at as high res as possible with your optimum res as highest goal. that will let you enjoy the monitor best. of course you try out different things until you find a combo that you like. but for the monitor the optimum is the only res it will perform like it was intended.
thanks guys:)
During the z-buffering process, the higher the resolution you have (along with more detail in the actual game), the more processing power you need to z-buffer into a 2-D image in order to translate to your screen. Everything involving your GPU will be involved in the resulting frame render. So---------------- if your graphics card doesn't have the ROPs (Render Output Processors) to do the task, lol you're ******.
here's all you options for widescreen resolutions1680x1050 1440x900 1280x800 1024x640 800x500 lowering the resolutions will help you get better performance but they will make the visuals worse by making everything all blocky and sometimes blurry you have a nice card (x1950pro) so it should run all those resolutions fine but i wouldn't go lower than 1440x900 because it should be able to run it perfect and when you mess with the resolution in games make sure the aspect ratio is 16:10 a resolution question?
[QUOTE=''payton88'']I have a 22in widescreen monitor. in all the benchmarks ive seen games run way better on lower resolutions, so wouldnt it make sence torun everything at 800x600? or does monitor size have to be added in the equation as well? could you guys suggest a resolution for me to run at that looks good and preforms well? my monitor supprts a max of 1680x1050 and i have a X1950pro 256mb. thanks guys[/QUOTE] have you tried and play a gamein 800x600 res on your monitor lol ? it will look terible, a lot worse thewn what an oldfashion 22'' crt screen would have looked like on that res. this has to do with how the LCD work. they are essensially made to work on optimum res and the moreyou lower the res the worse it looks becourse your LCD monitor has built in it 1680x1050 liquid crystals per inc, and as you lower your res, your monitor has to shut down some of those to show the res you choose, the consequence of this is that you get a mutch more blury picture then you would have on an old crt. i sugjest that you play your game at as high res as possible with your optimum res as highest goal. that will let you enjoy the monitor best. of course you try out different things until you find a combo that you like. but for the monitor the optimum is the only res it will perform like it was intended.
thanks guys:)
During the z-buffering process, the higher the resolution you have (along with more detail in the actual game), the more processing power you need to z-buffer into a 2-D image in order to translate to your screen. Everything involving your GPU will be involved in the resulting frame render. So---------------- if your graphics card doesn't have the ROPs (Render Output Processors) to do the task, lol you're ******.
Some weird WOW stuff
This thread is really only for anyone who has read the latest issue of Tips and Tricks, where they feature an article on ''archetypes'' of WOW players, showing some of the stereotypes most have come to associate with it or any MMORPG'ers in general. I don't play these never-ending titles--I just can't see myself putting that kind of time into them. So, I have to know, do those types of people in the article really exist in spades on the WOW network (besides the obvious ''noob''type, I mean), or is this just blatant stereotyping by people who don't really know better?
a rpg or rts game i should buy with 20 bucks?
yeah i have a craving to buy a game right now.. i haven't played rts in a LONG LONG LONG LONG time but i'm interested in it, and i always like rpg games so yeah... i also need to buy it with 20 bucks... don't want it to be a M game so really the only catch is 20 dollars ... feel free to post =]a rpg or rts game i should buy with 20 bucks?
Believe there's Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War gold edition for 20 bucks. Has the game and it's first expansion. Think it's rated M, big deal. a rpg or rts game i should buy with 20 bucks?
I'd suggest Spellforce 2. It'sboth an RTS and an RPG, and quite a good mix of the two :) You can play it single player or multiplayer with skirmish mode or a cooperative campaign. Plusyou can find a copy foraround $20.It is rated M, but you'll find it to be closer to a T rated game than the usual Mature title.
Ahhh, someone else who likes Spellforce :D I highly suggest Spellforce one with its 2 expansion packs more than spellforce two however these games contain starforce which you may or may not want on your computer. Another suggestion of mixing the two elements would be Heroes of Might and Magic V. Good turn based RTS with RPG elements mixed in. I would also suggest Fallout 1 %26 2 because they are one of the best RPGs of all time but kinda old. Baldur's Gate 1 %26 2 + expansions are also great two but finding all four for 20$ might be a hard task. I hear planescape torment has a great story for an RPG as well so could look into that one.
You'll probably have to do a little sleuthing to track this one down, but you should definitely check out Perimeter. It's a nifty RTS that utilizes some pretty cool and innovative concepts. I recommended it to a friend of mine who was really into WH40K: Dawn of War, and he absolutely loved it. I'm pretty sure this game missed most people's radar, but it's a pretty rad little title that shouldn't set you back more than a few bucks these days.
[QUOTE=''Sushbag88'']Believe there's Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War gold edition for 20 bucks. Has the game and it's first expansion. Think it's rated M, big deal. [/QUOTE]
Battle for Middle Earth mayby?
rts:starcraft+broodwar expansion. rome total war+barbarian invasion. stronghold crusader. age of empires 2+conquerers expansion. all these are excellent older rts games which you can find for very cheap if not in stores then online through amazon, or eb games, etc. each of the aforementioned games is easily worth every penny.rpg:morrowind+expansions and mods, baldur's gate 1 and 2+expansions, neverwinter nights diamond pack (includes all expansions plus popular mods).baldur's gate and neverwinter nights are both from the same series and thus are very similar play style, but both are extremely well done and excellent games in their own ways. morrowind and its expansions are great games and very cheap now that they are older. again, all these games i mentioned are great games.i can tell you more about these specific titles if you want, or you should definitely check out the gamespot reviews of the games. they are all amazing games and you will not be disappointed in any of them.
[QUOTE=''JN_Fenrir'']You'll probably have to do a little sleuthing to track this one down, but you should definitely check out Perimeter. It's a nifty RTS that utilizes some pretty cool and innovative concepts. I recommended it to a friend of mine who was really into WH40K: Dawn of War, and he absolutely loved it. I'm pretty sure this game missed most people's radar, but it's a pretty rad little title that shouldn't set you back more than a few bucks these days.[/QUOTE]Perimeter takes patience.. :)My review of Emperor's Testament:Well, after investing hours on this game I have to say that I am not that impressed.. Sure its innovative, but units are mere cannon fodder and you rely more on base expansion than anything else.. I have to agree with the previous reviewer about lack of documentation.. and agree with the GS review about only hard core Perimeter players playing this game.. It isn't for newbies or the casual RTS gamer. I'm not about to go through forums and translate from Russian only to play the game.. that being said I give it a FAIR score of 6. Gameplay is okay, a bit freaking, but so was Darwinia when I first played. The game gripped me for the first 10hrs or so.. but it felt like a chore thereafter. Sound, as with the GS review.. nothing mind blowing.. Graphics are okay.. but I base more on gameplay than on graphics alone. The game is pretty stable and runs very well, no graphical glitches on a 8800 GTS (which is still a new card, and is bound to have game glitching) Value: worth 20 bucks? If you like to grind through the game, or have played the previous game. I do have to say it is a new twist on the genre.
i agree with all the previous statements for a good rts, just wanna add, if u like outerspace type of rts, try Hegemonia or Homeworld 2. Both are great rts, but with the outerspace thing goin for them. If ur not into em, then def go Spellforce2 or Paraworld, or Dawn of War series or C%26C series or Starcraft series....lol...too many too list...or Perimeter(i found it kinda kewl), or Dragonshard or .....
with 20 bucks? starcraft battlechest for sure if u havent played it yet.
Believe there's Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War gold edition for 20 bucks. Has the game and it's first expansion. Think it's rated M, big deal. a rpg or rts game i should buy with 20 bucks?
I'd suggest Spellforce 2. It'sboth an RTS and an RPG, and quite a good mix of the two :) You can play it single player or multiplayer with skirmish mode or a cooperative campaign. Plusyou can find a copy foraround $20.It is rated M, but you'll find it to be closer to a T rated game than the usual Mature title.
Ahhh, someone else who likes Spellforce :D I highly suggest Spellforce one with its 2 expansion packs more than spellforce two however these games contain starforce which you may or may not want on your computer. Another suggestion of mixing the two elements would be Heroes of Might and Magic V. Good turn based RTS with RPG elements mixed in. I would also suggest Fallout 1 %26 2 because they are one of the best RPGs of all time but kinda old. Baldur's Gate 1 %26 2 + expansions are also great two but finding all four for 20$ might be a hard task. I hear planescape torment has a great story for an RPG as well so could look into that one.
You'll probably have to do a little sleuthing to track this one down, but you should definitely check out Perimeter. It's a nifty RTS that utilizes some pretty cool and innovative concepts. I recommended it to a friend of mine who was really into WH40K: Dawn of War, and he absolutely loved it. I'm pretty sure this game missed most people's radar, but it's a pretty rad little title that shouldn't set you back more than a few bucks these days.
[QUOTE=''Sushbag88'']Believe there's Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War gold edition for 20 bucks. Has the game and it's first expansion. Think it's rated M, big deal. [/QUOTE]
Battle for Middle Earth mayby?
rts:starcraft+broodwar expansion. rome total war+barbarian invasion. stronghold crusader. age of empires 2+conquerers expansion. all these are excellent older rts games which you can find for very cheap if not in stores then online through amazon, or eb games, etc. each of the aforementioned games is easily worth every penny.rpg:morrowind+expansions and mods, baldur's gate 1 and 2+expansions, neverwinter nights diamond pack (includes all expansions plus popular mods).baldur's gate and neverwinter nights are both from the same series and thus are very similar play style, but both are extremely well done and excellent games in their own ways. morrowind and its expansions are great games and very cheap now that they are older. again, all these games i mentioned are great games.i can tell you more about these specific titles if you want, or you should definitely check out the gamespot reviews of the games. they are all amazing games and you will not be disappointed in any of them.
[QUOTE=''JN_Fenrir'']You'll probably have to do a little sleuthing to track this one down, but you should definitely check out Perimeter. It's a nifty RTS that utilizes some pretty cool and innovative concepts. I recommended it to a friend of mine who was really into WH40K: Dawn of War, and he absolutely loved it. I'm pretty sure this game missed most people's radar, but it's a pretty rad little title that shouldn't set you back more than a few bucks these days.[/QUOTE]Perimeter takes patience.. :)My review of Emperor's Testament:Well, after investing hours on this game I have to say that I am not that impressed.. Sure its innovative, but units are mere cannon fodder and you rely more on base expansion than anything else.. I have to agree with the previous reviewer about lack of documentation.. and agree with the GS review about only hard core Perimeter players playing this game.. It isn't for newbies or the casual RTS gamer. I'm not about to go through forums and translate from Russian only to play the game.. that being said I give it a FAIR score of 6. Gameplay is okay, a bit freaking, but so was Darwinia when I first played. The game gripped me for the first 10hrs or so.. but it felt like a chore thereafter. Sound, as with the GS review.. nothing mind blowing.. Graphics are okay.. but I base more on gameplay than on graphics alone. The game is pretty stable and runs very well, no graphical glitches on a 8800 GTS (which is still a new card, and is bound to have game glitching) Value: worth 20 bucks? If you like to grind through the game, or have played the previous game. I do have to say it is a new twist on the genre.
i agree with all the previous statements for a good rts, just wanna add, if u like outerspace type of rts, try Hegemonia or Homeworld 2. Both are great rts, but with the outerspace thing goin for them. If ur not into em, then def go Spellforce2 or Paraworld, or Dawn of War series or C%26C series or Starcraft series....lol...too many too list...or Perimeter(i found it kinda kewl), or Dragonshard or .....
with 20 bucks? starcraft battlechest for sure if u havent played it yet.
looking for a decent rpg...
I'm looking for a new RPG to play on my laptop, I dont have any upgrades like a video card or anything so i won't be able to run anything very powerful, however my computer is fairly new and runs very well....I can run Knights of the Old Republic on it just fine. I really like Kotor and was wondering if any of you out there had any suggestions for another good RPG to play?looking for a decent rpg...
kotor2 ?its not like kotor but baldur's gate, icewind dale, neverwinter nights are decent rpgs of pclooking for a decent rpg...
If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.
Diablo 2, hands down.
[QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]
Yep pretty much.
[QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure I can run Kotor II though because i did the system requirement testing on my computer and it said that I failed it because of my video hardware...
[QUOTE=''xBoondockSTx''][QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure I can run Kotor II though because i did the system requirement testing on my computer and it said that I failed it because of my video hardware...[/QUOTE]
And we all trust those requirements testings don't we. Especially when M$ made one. Oh yeah that was fun.
[QUOTE=''BounceDK''][QUOTE=''xBoondockSTx''] [QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure I can run Kotor II though because i did the system requirement testing on my computer and it said that I failed it because of my video hardware...[/QUOTE] And we all trust those requirements testings don't we. Especially when M$ made one. Oh yeah that was fun.[/QUOTE]I hear ya, I'm just saying that I don't really want to spend any money on something that isn't going to work.
anyone else have an opinion on this matter?
Diablo II is a good medievil character build RPG which has a HIGH replay value and can be quite entertaining for hours on end.The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind is very very very good. one of the best I must say.The original, older, Pirates of the Caribbean is very good. (It was the one which was supposed to be Sea Dogs II)Some of the other Star Wars games, like, Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II and Jedi Knight II:Jedi Outcast are very good.Thats all that comes to mind now, very good games =]
I'm quite sure you will run the game just as good as the first one. Not much has changed and it's the same engine too.
A couple of other great RPGs are Arcanum andthe Gothic series.
I played both KOTOR games on my GeForce 4 MX, it wasn't perfect performance, but without a doubt playable. I'm pretty sure your graphics card is better than that :P
between KotoR 1 and 2 there's almost no graphic difference - anyway i would recommend on Gothic 2, Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, Fable
Fallout series, Spellforce 2 or Summoner are good RPGs.You can try any of this
KOTOR, KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, Diablo2, Fable, Fate(really boring), Titan Quast and Fallout
KOTOR 1 %26 2, fable, elder scrolls, morrowind all great RPG games
KoTOR2: it has only a bith higher requirements than 1st part. If you are a RPG fan then Baldur's Gate 2 just can't be missed.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Diablo 2. It's an old one, but it's still fun.
yeah, def give Gothic 2 a go round, Arx Fatalis, Summoner (wow, havent played that game in forever), Neverwinter, Baldurs Gate, Diablo 2, Sacred was pretty great, Icewind Dale, Divine Divinity, Fable was pretty awesome too, Once upon a Knight, lots of others out there too if u look...lots of great rpg's too be had.:)rosacea treatment
kotor2 ?its not like kotor but baldur's gate, icewind dale, neverwinter nights are decent rpgs of pclooking for a decent rpg...
If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.
Diablo 2, hands down.
[QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]
Yep pretty much.
[QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure I can run Kotor II though because i did the system requirement testing on my computer and it said that I failed it because of my video hardware...
[QUOTE=''xBoondockSTx''][QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure I can run Kotor II though because i did the system requirement testing on my computer and it said that I failed it because of my video hardware...[/QUOTE]
And we all trust those requirements testings don't we. Especially when M$ made one. Oh yeah that was fun.
[QUOTE=''BounceDK''][QUOTE=''xBoondockSTx''] [QUOTE=''HardcoreKiller2'']If you liked KotoR, then I would suggest KotoR II. Even though it's not as great as the original, it does imporve in some areas over the original. Also, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, and Fallout are great choices too.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure I can run Kotor II though because i did the system requirement testing on my computer and it said that I failed it because of my video hardware...[/QUOTE] And we all trust those requirements testings don't we. Especially when M$ made one. Oh yeah that was fun.[/QUOTE]I hear ya, I'm just saying that I don't really want to spend any money on something that isn't going to work.
anyone else have an opinion on this matter?
Diablo II is a good medievil character build RPG which has a HIGH replay value and can be quite entertaining for hours on end.The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind is very very very good. one of the best I must say.The original, older, Pirates of the Caribbean is very good. (It was the one which was supposed to be Sea Dogs II)Some of the other Star Wars games, like, Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II and Jedi Knight II:Jedi Outcast are very good.Thats all that comes to mind now, very good games =]
I'm quite sure you will run the game just as good as the first one. Not much has changed and it's the same engine too.
A couple of other great RPGs are Arcanum andthe Gothic series.
I played both KOTOR games on my GeForce 4 MX, it wasn't perfect performance, but without a doubt playable. I'm pretty sure your graphics card is better than that :P
between KotoR 1 and 2 there's almost no graphic difference - anyway i would recommend on Gothic 2, Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, Fable
Fallout series, Spellforce 2 or Summoner are good RPGs.You can try any of this
KOTOR, KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, Diablo2, Fable, Fate(really boring), Titan Quast and Fallout
KOTOR 1 %26 2, fable, elder scrolls, morrowind all great RPG games
KoTOR2: it has only a bith higher requirements than 1st part. If you are a RPG fan then Baldur's Gate 2 just can't be missed.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Diablo 2. It's an old one, but it's still fun.
yeah, def give Gothic 2 a go round, Arx Fatalis, Summoner (wow, havent played that game in forever), Neverwinter, Baldurs Gate, Diablo 2, Sacred was pretty great, Icewind Dale, Divine Divinity, Fable was pretty awesome too, Once upon a Knight, lots of others out there too if u look...lots of great rpg's too be had.:)
Modding, Mapping, ETC
I am planning on making mods, maps, and skins for Crysis, Cod4 later on.All i need to know is what do i use to make those things?i already got websites that can teach me and later on i will mess around with stuff, but i need a program to make them.thanksModding, Mapping, ETC
for Crysis...the program will come once the game comes out.Modding, Mapping, ETC
so there are programs for each game?
and hwat should i get first to learn the basc of modding and mapping?
[QUOTE=''blacksorrow07'']so there are programs for each game?[/QUOTE]sort of....Games come with special editing programs, but to create your own textures and Objects your gonna need programs like Maya and Photoshop, but those arent required.
oh ook
games come with SDKs (software dev kits)usually, some just come with mapping tools and maybe a few other tools to make some custom content. The SDK for Crysis is already been released to 2 select mod teams the rest will get it on launch.Modelling is usually done in something like 3DSmax, Softimage, or similar and games have exporters so that's one type of program that's not unique per game.Source is out and has a pretty good mod setup, if you want to learn the basics it's a good place to start, it comes with Hammer (map editor), texture tools, cutscene tools, code and has a huge resource center with plenty of mods. The original half life was also very big but it's old atm so start with Source. Level design is the most common form of modification, things like textures, models, code all come from that but if you can map you can release missions, mp maps, map packs, updated maps and other cool things so start doing some level design work.If you are more artistic and skill with the brush then making skins for models or textures is a bit less work. For example reskinning is also very popular in some games, for example CS:S has many skins for weapons/players and that's probably another good way to start without sacrificing weeks of time.For textures you'll want to use programs like GIMP. Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro etc.
thanks!
for Crysis...the program will come once the game comes out.Modding, Mapping, ETC
so there are programs for each game?
and hwat should i get first to learn the basc of modding and mapping?
[QUOTE=''blacksorrow07'']so there are programs for each game?[/QUOTE]sort of....Games come with special editing programs, but to create your own textures and Objects your gonna need programs like Maya and Photoshop, but those arent required.
oh ook
games come with SDKs (software dev kits)usually, some just come with mapping tools and maybe a few other tools to make some custom content. The SDK for Crysis is already been released to 2 select mod teams the rest will get it on launch.Modelling is usually done in something like 3DSmax, Softimage, or similar and games have exporters so that's one type of program that's not unique per game.Source is out and has a pretty good mod setup, if you want to learn the basics it's a good place to start, it comes with Hammer (map editor), texture tools, cutscene tools, code and has a huge resource center with plenty of mods. The original half life was also very big but it's old atm so start with Source. Level design is the most common form of modification, things like textures, models, code all come from that but if you can map you can release missions, mp maps, map packs, updated maps and other cool things so start doing some level design work.If you are more artistic and skill with the brush then making skins for models or textures is a bit less work. For example reskinning is also very popular in some games, for example CS:S has many skins for weapons/players and that's probably another good way to start without sacrificing weeks of time.For textures you'll want to use programs like GIMP. Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro etc.
thanks!
BlackSite: Area 51 Hands-On demo?
people said they played the demo where can we get it?BlackSite: Area 51 Hands-On demo?
afaik, currently only Xbox Live
afaik, currently only Xbox Live
-World of warcraft question-
I have been wondering if you are not playing for like 6 months on your account will it then be deleted?It would be terrible if you had a level 70 and bam its gone.I was just wondering :).-Orakk-World of warcraft question-
No, for World of Warcraft, you have bought an account and subscribed to play. If you cancel the subscription, the account remains, but unplayable. Your characters and items would not be deleted.-World of warcraft question-
[QUOTE=''shaddix55'']No, for World of Warcraft, you have bought an account and subscribed to play. If you cancel the subscription, the account remains, but unplayable. Your characters and items would not be deleted.[/QUOTE]Thanks man!-Orakk
No, for World of Warcraft, you have bought an account and subscribed to play. If you cancel the subscription, the account remains, but unplayable. Your characters and items would not be deleted.-World of warcraft question-
[QUOTE=''shaddix55'']No, for World of Warcraft, you have bought an account and subscribed to play. If you cancel the subscription, the account remains, but unplayable. Your characters and items would not be deleted.[/QUOTE]Thanks man!-Orakk
the most worthless game series
on my opinion that would be dynasty waroiors, because it feels like they slaped it on in about a month.And the um well...................... everything is below mediocer.the most worthless game series
the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*the most worthless game series
[QUOTE=''hoket'']the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*[/QUOTE]LOL
tomb raider series has become worthless after those first three games.
[QUOTE=''hoket'']the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*[/QUOTE]Yeah, what you said makes so much sense. The millions of people that play those games around the world must be smoking crack. What else is worthless hoket; penicillin and airbags?I would also like to apologize to anyone who is made that I gave this flamer any attention.Also, to answer the thread: anything 2K sports in NHL... absolutely awful comparred to EA
I'm just waiting for someone to name an iconic game series as the worst, just so that they can sound different. oh, wait, someone already has. This thread has gone downhill before it even started.
[QUOTE=''zonetroperalpha'']on my opinion that would be dynasty waroiors, because it feels like they slaped it on in about a month.And the um well...................... everything is below mediocer.[/QUOTE]lol....i dont comment on spelling most of the times but....lolerskates
[QUOTE=''svkf50'']Yeah, what you said makes so much sense. The millions of people that play those games around the world must be smoking crack. What else is worthless hoket; penicillin and airbags? I would also like to apologize to anyone who is made that I gave this flamer any attention.Also, to answer the thread: anything 2K sports in NHL... absolutely awful comparred to EA[/QUOTE]
well, Penicillin can cause some serious side effects, and airbags deploying can kill children, are you saying you support the killing of children? you make me sick.
but in all seriousness it was a joke, people are entitled to their oppinions and if you dont like it keep your god damn mouth shut. i can dislike any game series i want, and you think coming into this thread and flaming me for it is going to change my mind? get a life.
bite me
[QUOTE=''hoket'']the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*[/QUOTE]I don't mind that statement :) I'm a PC only gamer but don't care for strategy games (Tropico was the only one I even partially got into), and don't play MMOs (WoW) so hey, it works :PThe Backyard sports series games have to be one of the most worthless, they get good licenses (somehow), but can't they put some effort into making the games somewhat decent?
also, to add to what i said earlier, in threads like this people will get their fellings hurt. not everyone in the world has to like the exact same stuff you do, just like you dont have to like thingsthat other people like, its only human.
and just to get it out there, on my xfire i have thousands of hours played in Warcraft 3 and its expansion, as well as World of Warcraft. starcraft, i was never really a fan of.
Devil May Cry.... C rated garbage since day 1 imo.
[QUOTE=''hoket''][QUOTE=''svkf50'']Yeah, what you said makes so much sense. The millions of people that play those games around the world must be smoking crack. What else is worthless hoket; penicillin and airbags? I would also like to apologize to anyone who is made that I gave this flamer any attention.Also, to answer the thread: anything 2K sports in NHL... absolutely awful comparred to EA[/QUOTE]
well, Penicillin can cause some serious side effects, and airbags deploying can kill children, are you saying you support the killing of children? you make me sick.
but in all seriousness it was a joke, people are entitled to their oppinions and if you dont like it keep your god damn mouth shut. i can dislike any game series i want, and you think coming into this thread and flaming me for it is going to change my mind? get a life.[/QUOTE]I would agree with you, but this is for the most worthless game series, and I think you probably no of a ton of worse game series than starcraft/warcraft. First thing that comes to my mind right now is the marine sharpshooter series.
the marine sharpshooter games were all horrible...
:DHALF LIFE 2 IS WORTH OF PLAYING ALL THE TIME !!!!! :D :lol: :P
Most worthless game series: EverquestEver since it's initial release it's glided through the RPG genre on a wind of addictive mediocrity. It derailed a developing MMO genre and stuck us on a levelling treadmill that's extended through numerous MMO's for the past 9 years, thanks to it's numerous clones. It spawned the Champions of Norrath series, PS2 action RPG's which took the bold stance of never deviating from the generic action RPG template. Let's not forget Lords of Everquest, the game that bravely brought EQ's mediocrity to the RTS masses. Don't even mention Everquest Online Adventures... that game's black heart would suck the life out of even the most avid of gamers.With it's derailment of one genre and underachieving offerings to several others, partnered with it's unexplicable continuance in the gaming world (14 expansions between the 2 EQ's anyone?), I think Everquest easily deserves the title of most worthless game series.
Splinter Cellits so far from being stealth game. how the hell lights can only enlighten 30cm radius only and after 31cm its pitch dark ?? i dont need to say it doesnt even have a story. so without story and gameplay Splinter Cell wins the award of being the worst and worthless
Hm, maybe True crime.
Halo series. Let the consoels play their newb friendly auto aim helper games while us PC players have way better FPS's.
I guess sticky aim would be more appropriate before I get flamed, however I know you cant disagree that PC shooters are way better then Halo.
the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*the most worthless game series
[QUOTE=''hoket'']the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*[/QUOTE]LOL
tomb raider series has become worthless after those first three games.
[QUOTE=''hoket'']the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*[/QUOTE]Yeah, what you said makes so much sense. The millions of people that play those games around the world must be smoking crack. What else is worthless hoket; penicillin and airbags?I would also like to apologize to anyone who is made that I gave this flamer any attention.Also, to answer the thread: anything 2K sports in NHL... absolutely awful comparred to EA
I'm just waiting for someone to name an iconic game series as the worst, just so that they can sound different. oh, wait, someone already has. This thread has gone downhill before it even started.
[QUOTE=''zonetroperalpha'']on my opinion that would be dynasty waroiors, because it feels like they slaped it on in about a month.And the um well...................... everything is below mediocer.[/QUOTE]lol....i dont comment on spelling most of the times but....lolerskates
[QUOTE=''svkf50'']Yeah, what you said makes so much sense. The millions of people that play those games around the world must be smoking crack. What else is worthless hoket; penicillin and airbags? I would also like to apologize to anyone who is made that I gave this flamer any attention.Also, to answer the thread: anything 2K sports in NHL... absolutely awful comparred to EA[/QUOTE]
well, Penicillin can cause some serious side effects, and airbags deploying can kill children, are you saying you support the killing of children? you make me sick.
but in all seriousness it was a joke, people are entitled to their oppinions and if you dont like it keep your god damn mouth shut. i can dislike any game series i want, and you think coming into this thread and flaming me for it is going to change my mind? get a life.
bite me
[QUOTE=''hoket'']the Warcraft and Starcraft series' *activates flame suit*[/QUOTE]I don't mind that statement :) I'm a PC only gamer but don't care for strategy games (Tropico was the only one I even partially got into), and don't play MMOs (WoW) so hey, it works :PThe Backyard sports series games have to be one of the most worthless, they get good licenses (somehow), but can't they put some effort into making the games somewhat decent?
also, to add to what i said earlier, in threads like this people will get their fellings hurt. not everyone in the world has to like the exact same stuff you do, just like you dont have to like thingsthat other people like, its only human.
and just to get it out there, on my xfire i have thousands of hours played in Warcraft 3 and its expansion, as well as World of Warcraft. starcraft, i was never really a fan of.
Devil May Cry.... C rated garbage since day 1 imo.
[QUOTE=''hoket''][QUOTE=''svkf50'']Yeah, what you said makes so much sense. The millions of people that play those games around the world must be smoking crack. What else is worthless hoket; penicillin and airbags? I would also like to apologize to anyone who is made that I gave this flamer any attention.Also, to answer the thread: anything 2K sports in NHL... absolutely awful comparred to EA[/QUOTE]
well, Penicillin can cause some serious side effects, and airbags deploying can kill children, are you saying you support the killing of children? you make me sick.
but in all seriousness it was a joke, people are entitled to their oppinions and if you dont like it keep your god damn mouth shut. i can dislike any game series i want, and you think coming into this thread and flaming me for it is going to change my mind? get a life.[/QUOTE]I would agree with you, but this is for the most worthless game series, and I think you probably no of a ton of worse game series than starcraft/warcraft. First thing that comes to my mind right now is the marine sharpshooter series.
the marine sharpshooter games were all horrible...
:DHALF LIFE 2 IS WORTH OF PLAYING ALL THE TIME !!!!! :D :lol: :P
Most worthless game series: EverquestEver since it's initial release it's glided through the RPG genre on a wind of addictive mediocrity. It derailed a developing MMO genre and stuck us on a levelling treadmill that's extended through numerous MMO's for the past 9 years, thanks to it's numerous clones. It spawned the Champions of Norrath series, PS2 action RPG's which took the bold stance of never deviating from the generic action RPG template. Let's not forget Lords of Everquest, the game that bravely brought EQ's mediocrity to the RTS masses. Don't even mention Everquest Online Adventures... that game's black heart would suck the life out of even the most avid of gamers.With it's derailment of one genre and underachieving offerings to several others, partnered with it's unexplicable continuance in the gaming world (14 expansions between the 2 EQ's anyone?), I think Everquest easily deserves the title of most worthless game series.
Splinter Cellits so far from being stealth game. how the hell lights can only enlighten 30cm radius only and after 31cm its pitch dark ?? i dont need to say it doesnt even have a story. so without story and gameplay Splinter Cell wins the award of being the worst and worthless
Hm, maybe True crime.
Halo series. Let the consoels play their newb friendly auto aim helper games while us PC players have way better FPS's.
I guess sticky aim would be more appropriate before I get flamed, however I know you cant disagree that PC shooters are way better then Halo.
PC Gamers .............Are U Addicted To Computer !!!!!!!
Well The Question Is Simple And Straight Idaily use my computer for about 10 hours Flat :P for gaming as well as net-surfing, itdepends on my mood so wat about u all PC Gamers .............Are U Addicted To Computer !!!!!!!
No, I'm not addicted. I use it for as much as several hours in a day if I'm able, but I could do otherwise if I decided to, so I'm not addicted.PC Gamers .............Are U Addicted To Computer !!!!!!!
I accepted that I was addicted to the PC years ago and i've embraced it.
probably :)
300% sure xD
I use my PC for work and recreation (games, net surfing, art and writing), so I guess I'm on it quite a lot. I wouldn't say I'm addicted, though.
Wat I'm Saying That PC Gamers Use their PC every day at any cost even for half an hour is it addiction or what ,I feel discomfort around myself IfI dont use my PC; wat about u all
Guilty as charged. :)
I've been addicted to something before and I don't feel the same way without my pc. I can go days without it but I'd prefer not to because I enjoy using it.
If there's any sort of computer in my vicinity, you can bet that I'm on it.
You can also bet that I'm using it for games, Internet, or video.
(Not just IBM clones, but stuff like PDAs and smartphones as well. Those are computers, except they fit in your pocket and are just powerful enough to emulate SNES games full-speed.)
I don't necessarily feel any discomfort or anxietywhen not using my PC, but if I wasn't on the PC then i'd be doing something else gaming related.
Being Addicted To PC is GOOD or BAD :P
The answers are all here: http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25646258
well there's nothing i'm more addicted to probably and it's been a major problem for me in the last 2 years:? i like spend 10 - 15 hours daily just doing nothing but surfing the net and playing games :)
First Thing First Buddy We are talking about PC not PC Gaming and secondly Thats the past , I think we should better starttalking about the future
Nope not addicted, I don't mind going somewhere where I can't use a computer but while I'm home I like to check a few sites and stuff at least one or two of hours a day
Doesn't always have to mean gaming... I use my pc for work as well, but like yeah when I had no pc for 1 month, 1.7 vcore... rofl, my mind was in a state of confusion lol...
the only thing i do is go on my PC and watch movies...on the PC :)i dont care, i like it.
[QUOTE=''zeus_gb'']I don't necessarily feel any discomfort or anxietywhen not using my PC, but if I wasn't on the PC then i'd be doing something else gaming related.[/QUOTE] same with me
[QUOTE=''gamerchris810''] the only thing i do is go on my PC and watch movies...on the PC :)i dont care, i like it.[/QUOTE]LOL:P
No, I'm not addicted. I use it for as much as several hours in a day if I'm able, but I could do otherwise if I decided to, so I'm not addicted.PC Gamers .............Are U Addicted To Computer !!!!!!!
I accepted that I was addicted to the PC years ago and i've embraced it.
probably :)
300% sure xD
I use my PC for work and recreation (games, net surfing, art and writing), so I guess I'm on it quite a lot. I wouldn't say I'm addicted, though.
Wat I'm Saying That PC Gamers Use their PC every day at any cost even for half an hour is it addiction or what ,I feel discomfort around myself IfI dont use my PC; wat about u all
Guilty as charged. :)
I've been addicted to something before and I don't feel the same way without my pc. I can go days without it but I'd prefer not to because I enjoy using it.
If there's any sort of computer in my vicinity, you can bet that I'm on it.
You can also bet that I'm using it for games, Internet, or video.
(Not just IBM clones, but stuff like PDAs and smartphones as well. Those are computers, except they fit in your pocket and are just powerful enough to emulate SNES games full-speed.)
I don't necessarily feel any discomfort or anxietywhen not using my PC, but if I wasn't on the PC then i'd be doing something else gaming related.
Being Addicted To PC is GOOD or BAD :P
The answers are all here: http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25646258
well there's nothing i'm more addicted to probably and it's been a major problem for me in the last 2 years:? i like spend 10 - 15 hours daily just doing nothing but surfing the net and playing games :)
First Thing First Buddy We are talking about PC not PC Gaming and secondly Thats the past , I think we should better starttalking about the future
Nope not addicted, I don't mind going somewhere where I can't use a computer but while I'm home I like to check a few sites and stuff at least one or two of hours a day
Doesn't always have to mean gaming... I use my pc for work as well, but like yeah when I had no pc for 1 month, 1.7 vcore... rofl, my mind was in a state of confusion lol...
the only thing i do is go on my PC and watch movies...on the PC :)i dont care, i like it.
[QUOTE=''zeus_gb'']I don't necessarily feel any discomfort or anxietywhen not using my PC, but if I wasn't on the PC then i'd be doing something else gaming related.[/QUOTE] same with me
[QUOTE=''gamerchris810''] the only thing i do is go on my PC and watch movies...on the PC :)i dont care, i like it.[/QUOTE]LOL:P
Enemy Territory: Quakes Wars video and pictures,
http://www.thattechsite.com/main/?p=108(http://www.thattechsite.com/main/?p=108 )[IMG]http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p234/Spoudazo/etqw2007-06-1900-44-40-98800x600.jpg[/IMG]Anyone else playing it yet? :DEnemy Territory: Quakes Wars video and pictures,
How did he gain a Public Beta key?? Oo (Or is he using the public beta that has been leaked in these days?)Enemy Territory: Quakes Wars video and pictures,
its open to Fileplanet subscribers I think.
If you subscribed to FP for a new one year subscription you got one, however I don't think there are any left now.
When are they opening it up to everyone else?
Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.
hmm I really was looking forward to this game for some time but with all the push back of the release dates I question how many people will actually buy it because this game will rely so heavily on the mulitplayer community for it to be successful at all eh.
[QUOTE=''Meu2k7'']Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.[/QUOTE]The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release.
[QUOTE=''_Pedro_'']The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release. [/QUOTE]Who's the chick of your sign? She's cute.[QUOTE=''dunamistheou'']If you subscribed to FP for a new one year subscription you got one, however I don't think there are any left now.[/QUOTE]In the Dev's Blog, they said that in further days they will release more keys.http://community.enemyterritory.com/index.php?q=node/57
[QUOTE=''_Pedro_''][QUOTE=''Meu2k7'']Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.[/QUOTE]The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release. [/QUOTE]Ah the requirments are available? thats a start. I'm just getting abit annoyed, UT3 for september? Im doubting that aswell, and I need my FPS fix -.-
ET:QWs should be out not too long from now. Its a very good game and has very good performance. It runs much better then q4, and the graphics look great. But I'd say its the gameplay that makes the game most fun to play. Its real simple and easy to follow.
It looks awesome.
can anyone post the system requirements for it?
[QUOTE=''Meu2k7''][QUOTE=''_Pedro_''][QUOTE=''Meu2k7'']Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.[/QUOTE]The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release. [/QUOTE]Ah the requirments are available? thats a start. I'm just getting abit annoyed, UT3 for september? Im doubting that aswell, and I need my FPS fix -.-[/QUOTE]Same here, but I'm positive that one of these games will get released. I think Quake Wars is being prepped for Quakecon. [QUOTE=''Mithrandir0x'']Who's the chick of your sign? She's cute.[/QUOTE]That would be Sheena from Tales of symphonia. :)[QUOTE=''aandrew610'']can anyone post the system requirements for it?[/QUOTE]These are the system requirements for the beta, but it can only change for the best.[url]http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=893[/url]
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lol looks like my comp can bearly run it
Doesn't look that great.There,i said it.
[QUOTE=''lionhunter'']Doesn't look that great.There,i said it.[/QUOTE]ET is known for its Multiplayer Gameplay, not its looks ;)
After playing it for several hours, I'd just like to say, I don't really think this game is ready to be released any time soon.
bugs?or gameplay problems?rosacea treatment
How did he gain a Public Beta key?? Oo (Or is he using the public beta that has been leaked in these days?)Enemy Territory: Quakes Wars video and pictures,
its open to Fileplanet subscribers I think.
If you subscribed to FP for a new one year subscription you got one, however I don't think there are any left now.
When are they opening it up to everyone else?
Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.
hmm I really was looking forward to this game for some time but with all the push back of the release dates I question how many people will actually buy it because this game will rely so heavily on the mulitplayer community for it to be successful at all eh.
[QUOTE=''Meu2k7'']Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.[/QUOTE]The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release.
[QUOTE=''_Pedro_'']The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release. [/QUOTE]Who's the chick of your sign? She's cute.[QUOTE=''dunamistheou'']If you subscribed to FP for a new one year subscription you got one, however I don't think there are any left now.[/QUOTE]In the Dev's Blog, they said that in further days they will release more keys.http://community.enemyterritory.com/index.php?q=node/57
[QUOTE=''_Pedro_''][QUOTE=''Meu2k7'']Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.[/QUOTE]The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release. [/QUOTE]Ah the requirments are available? thats a start. I'm just getting abit annoyed, UT3 for september? Im doubting that aswell, and I need my FPS fix -.-
ET:QWs should be out not too long from now. Its a very good game and has very good performance. It runs much better then q4, and the graphics look great. But I'd say its the gameplay that makes the game most fun to play. Its real simple and easy to follow.
It looks awesome.
can anyone post the system requirements for it?
[QUOTE=''Meu2k7''][QUOTE=''_Pedro_''][QUOTE=''Meu2k7'']Only Public beta now? ffs are we expecting 2-3-4-5-6 months off from release?Crysis wont be released this year ... no chance in hell with the current development times.[/QUOTE]The real beta was the Clan Beta. This open beta is more to test their servers, after seeing the system requirements I think this game is very near release. [/QUOTE]Ah the requirments are available? thats a start. I'm just getting abit annoyed, UT3 for september? Im doubting that aswell, and I need my FPS fix -.-[/QUOTE]Same here, but I'm positive that one of these games will get released. I think Quake Wars is being prepped for Quakecon. [QUOTE=''Mithrandir0x'']Who's the chick of your sign? She's cute.[/QUOTE]That would be Sheena from Tales of symphonia. :)[QUOTE=''aandrew610'']can anyone post the system requirements for it?[/QUOTE]These are the system requirements for the beta, but it can only change for the best.[url]http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=893[/url]
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lol looks like my comp can bearly run it
Doesn't look that great.There,i said it.
[QUOTE=''lionhunter'']Doesn't look that great.There,i said it.[/QUOTE]ET is known for its Multiplayer Gameplay, not its looks ;)
After playing it for several hours, I'd just like to say, I don't really think this game is ready to be released any time soon.
bugs?or gameplay problems?
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